Othello Motif Blog
A motif is a recurring object, image, or word that sometimes takes on symbolic significance and unifies a text.
You will track the development of motifs in the play. When you see one of the motifs used in an interesting or significant way in the text, add comments under the spot where your motif is listed. Include the following:
* Quote the lines of dialogue where the motif occurs
* Analyze how the motif is used in those lines. What ideas or emotions are evoked?
How does this use of the motif develop something you noticed earlier ( the development
of a character, situation, relationship, or theme)? How does this use of the motif add
a new layer of meaning?
Please note that variations or close matches to the words listed below also count in terms of your tracking of the motif.
You will track the development of motifs in the play. When you see one of the motifs used in an interesting or significant way in the text, add comments under the spot where your motif is listed. Include the following:
* Quote the lines of dialogue where the motif occurs
* Analyze how the motif is used in those lines. What ideas or emotions are evoked?
How does this use of the motif develop something you noticed earlier ( the development
of a character, situation, relationship, or theme)? How does this use of the motif add
a new layer of meaning?
Please note that variations or close matches to the words listed below also count in terms of your tracking of the motif.
Expectations:
How many? Each time we assign the Motif Blog, we will give you a number of entries to complete.
Length? List the quote that connects to the motif. Then write a well-developed paragraph of approximately 8-12 sentences.
Be sure to… ANALYZE the quote. Break it down—discuss specific words, images, figurative language, and details. Do provide some context for it (what’s going on when this quote comes up in the play), but most of your writing should be analysis, NOT paraphrasing. Use the questions above to help you develop ideas.
REPUTATION/HONOR
ReplyDelete“In following him, I follow but myself; Heaven is my judge” (Shakespeare 2).
DeleteFrom the very beginning of the play, we, as the audience, begin to see Iago’s true colors. The whole basis as to why he hates Othello stems from Othello’s decision to deny Iago of the position of lieutenant. By denying Iago this, Othello took away some of Iago’s honor, and taking away Iago’s honor is a big mistake. This decision changes how other will see Iago even though several gentlemen recommended him to get promoted. It also alters how Iago sees himself. Iago has become the victim that desires some form of justice and the longer this feelings of unfairness lingers, the easier it is for hate to fill the void. Once this feeling of hate has begun, it is extremely difficult to control it. However, it is very easy when you are hurt, to justify your hate. Iago, in some parts like this quote, justifies his hate as an order from God. He would not follow through with it all if he did not trust that Othello was disrupting the natural order of how things should be run. During this time period, people clutched to their religion and used it as their guide when they had none. In this case, religion is the first defense that Iago uses to reassure himself of what must be done and what he feels.
“To the gross clasps of a lascivious Moor…”(Shakespeare 4).
DeleteThis was when Roderigo was telling Brabantio that Desdemona was with Othello. This quote brought out what others thought of Othello and also making you think that Othello is some sort of sexual monster. This really makes you think about Othello’s actual personality, and you will see that Othello isn’t as lustful as Iago and Roderigo describe. Also goining along with Othello’s personality, this was the initial description about him that we read, so we used this to create a sense of Othello. Then after actually meeting him, he is much more respectful to Desdemona. Othello is also very honorable and you can tell everyone looks to him because he is their leader. How Iago and Roderigo were describing Othello was biased because they have reasons to hate him, Roderigo because Othello has Desdemona's love and Iago because Othello chose Michael Cassio over himself. Thus making the initial description of Othello very inaccurate and throughout the book, continuously proving that description wrong through Othello's words and actions.
Act 1 Scene 3 Page 15:
Delete"I do percieve here a divided duty: To you I am bound for life and education; My life and education both do learn me How to respect you; you are the lord of duty, I am hitherto your daughter: but here's my husband, And so much duty as my mother show'd To you..."
This quote happens when Desdemona is talking in front of the Duke and the Senators about her marriage to Othello after her father has accused her of being taken. It does not exactly have the words "reputation or honor" in it however the whole quote revolves around those ideas. While Desdemona is saying this, she is hurting her father's reputation. It is not intentional but it still is happening. Brabantio has just finished telling these same people that his daughter has been taken from him by some horrible thing so much that they assume she is dead. At first, they are all sympathetic of him until they find out that it is "valiant Othello" who he is accusing of this. First, Othello damaged Brabantio's reputation by making it obvious to them all that the thought that he had to use magic is insane. Then, Desdemona speaks out afterwards to not only prove this point more, but also to choose Othello over her father. This is almost humiliating to Brabantio, which he makes clear by the fact that he chooses to spite Othello afterwards. Desdemona is also being honorable in this situation because she is showing her loyalty to her husband, Othello.
Not I. I must be found / My parts, my title and my perfect soul / Shall manifest me rightly. Is it they?
DeleteAct I Scene II
Othello is clearly trying to pull rank here. What he said before about his “ ..services which I have done the signiory / Shall out-tongue his complaints. 'Tis yet to know,— / Which, when I know that boasting is an honour” ties into this. Othello’s position in the army, his accomplishments, his adventures are what set him above the rest in Venice. It’s what makes him worth talking to and being seen with, it’s what prompts Brabantio to invite him over, it’s what attracts Desdemona to him.
He has a right to pull rank in such an obvious and shameless way. The Venetians have been wining and dining this guy, this great general whose eyes have seen the world. It’s his literal meal ticket, it’s his safety blanket, and, as shown here, it’s clearly his backup plan. It seems that his past is Othello’s fixed point, just pull the “perfect soul” card and he should be fine. But not one that can easily mend problems in a changing age. The minute he is accused of “making the beast with two backs” with, god forbid, a signior’s daughter, a pure soul, a white girl; Othello is fast to use his no-fail, risk-free stratagem.
His “perfect soul” sticks out like a sore thumb in this line. Othello is making quite an assertion here. But hey, if I had a perfect soul, I’d probably brag about it too. But Othello’s “perfect soul” just married a signior’s daughter in the middle of the night and gave half of Venice a reason to slaughter him with a gondola oar. If there’s a chance that his soul is still spotless, then I’m sure that, by now, it would be a common practice to take one’s pick from the inhabitants of a city, take one away without telling the relatives, and marry her in secret. But we live in a very different world and Othello should know that his “perfect soul” screwed up.
But, take into consideration, would he ever be able to marry Desdemona, if they had chosen to do it the traditional way? Probably not, but it’s the right thing to do. Personally, society and conscience could care less how much the two love each other, it relies on how well they showcase their love to everyone else. Whenever people go to Desdemona and Othello’s house for a pasta dinner, all they’ll be able to whisper about is the story of how these two caused shenanigans in a war room and managed to piss off Brabantio so much that he went to meet Othello armed with backup. The romance! The intrigue! It’s like a bad soap opera. Othello should have at least tried to reason with Brabantio before stealing his daughter away, he was over at their house a lot anyways.
Dumbledore once said “It is our choices who It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities”. So Othello isn’t Harry Potter, this much is true, but this quote applies to what Othello is doing. Othello must learn to let his reckless decision speak for him, instead of his past accolades, at least if he wants to live it up Dumbledore’s way. Through this, he will not only be a talented general but a man well worth Desdemona.
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DeleteI totally agree with what Praise said. Othello being a well-respected general should have asked Barbantio to marry Desdemona instead of sneaking around behind his back. Marriage back then was very classy and you had to get the fathers permission to marry his daughter, as you do today, but back then I feel marriage thing was taken much more serious. Especially since Barbantio and Othello were supposedly friends, you would think that Othello would feel comfortable asking him. I think that part of the reason why Barbantio got so mad is because he feels betrayed and embarrassed not only by Desdemona, but Othello as well. And now that Othello thinks Desdemona is having an affair with Cassio, Othello is enraged and feeling betrayed, just as Barbantio had felt. “I am glad to see you mad…devil!”(Shakespeare 66). After Othello says this he strikes Desdemona, which is extremely low for any man to do, but it’s especially surprising for us as an audience to see someone with controlled and mature personality do this. His language is so dark here, he basically is calling Desdemona the devil and he’s say that he is glad that Desdemona is mad. The only person I could see saying something like this is Iago and we see here in this quote how easily Iago influences Othello. I think that we spent so much time over reacting on how rude Barbantio was about dealing with betrayal, but just look at Othello. Yes, Barbantio said some pretty cruel things, but at least he never physically abused his daughter or called her the devil.
DeleteI agree with Melissa on this. To me, Iago knows how it feels to be humiliated and have a loss of honor. On page 73 (scene 2 of act 5), Iago uses his knowledge of this emotion and crafted his words in such a way as to make Roderigo understand this idea. "But Roderigo, if thou hast that in thee indeed, which I have greater reason to believe now than ever, I mean purpose, courage, courage, and valor, this night show it…" Iago almost puts Roderigo through a guilt trip concerning his honor and dignity, making him believe that he (Roderigo) is on the verge of losing not only his honor, but also Desdemona as a result of that. At this point in the play, Iago’s character is pretty much completely developed as the villain, however, even through all of the trickery and deceit, the entire cast of characters still sees him as a moral, honest man. While his mouth is saying, “In following him, I follow but myself; Heaven is my judge,” his actions and his mind speak thusly, “Nail me to a cross, crucify me for my sins and let my body rot.”
DeleteI agree with Kierstyn, Iago did over exaggerate in describing Othello as a monster. In the beginning of the play as a reader, you do not meet Othello until the near end of the first act. The language that Iago uses to describe Othello are so far off, that when you actually meet him, you become doubtful if Iago and Roderigo were talking about the right person or not. Othello is not a monster, in fact he is far from it, in this part of the play, when Othello is being threatened his life by Brabantio, Othello remains cool, calm, and collected, and tries to find a more rational way to ease the problem. He radiates confidence, and shows respect to everyone he meets, surely something a monster would not do. Shakespeare uses the language Iago uses towards Othello to symbolize and show the reader Iago's hate towards Othello.
DeleteI agree with Melissa. It is almost difficult to determine who your villain is going to be in this play. In a way you somewhat feel for Iago, hes just the guy who didn't get the position that should have rightfully been his. Reading further into the book, you come to realize that all Othello was doing in light of this decision was looking out for his good friend Iago. As we talked in the seminar discussion, the position could have just not been given to Iago because Othello didn't want it to seem like an act of favoritism or because he had bigger things planned for "honest Iago". When really all along we know that after this decision is made Iago goes insane and unleashes every bit of anger in to a plan of revenge against Othello. "Myself the while to draw the Moor apart"(39) just here Iago talks about how he plans to turn Othello against Desdemona and Cassio in one trick. But shortly after Iago is saying things such as, "I am your own forever" to Othello right after he is rewarded with the position of lieutenant. This just goes to show how much we have learned over the past few Acts about how two faced and evil Iago really is.
DeleteErica Wasserbach
I agree with Megan's point that Desdemona had put her complete faith and trust in Othello, as well as putting a dent in Brabantio's reputation, when she stood up in front of the council and chose Othello over her own father. Reading farther into the play and after the seminar discussion the question now is; Did Desdemona make the right choice in dedicating herself to Othello and disregarding her father? At the point in the play where the council scene happens we've only seen Othello as the respectful and levelheaded general, and dedicated husband, but now the tables are starting to turn. Othello becomes enraged and consumed by jealously placed methodically in his mind by Iago, and even lowers himself to strike Desdemona in public, and comparing her to the devil. That does not sound like the relationship that Desdemona risked her father's and her own reputation for. Brabantio had warned Othello that "She has deceived her father and may thee", maybe slapping Desdemona in public was a way for Othello to defend his honor, that he would never be disrespected by Desdemona. But in violently hitting her his reputation and hers for that matter were both dampened. Maybe Brabantio was right all along.
DeleteHELL/HEAVEN
ReplyDelete"Saints in your injuries, devils being offended..." (Shakespeare 24, Iago)
DeleteThis quote is the complete core of Iago's character. His character is a misogynistic sexist who believes that women are the lowest forms of human beings. His words and speeches, another core part of his character, are his most powerful weapons. He is a word-crafter, and his use of metaphors are what shapes his speech and his character as a whole. In this quote, he is expressing his utter disgust of Emilia. His use of metaphors about heaven and hell provide the stark contrasts of her personality. When he talks about being a saint, he refers to it as somewhat of a mask, as if Emilia acts sweet and innocent around people. However, behind this mask, Emilia hides her true, malevolent, devil side, where the second half of the quote comes into play. Devils are offended by the true inconceivable evil of Emilia, and this is where Iago's misogyny comes into play. All of this shapes Iago as a character, because his words and his misogyny are the true center of all of his actions, and this quote encompasses that perfectly.
As hell's from heaven! If it were now to die, / 'Twere now to be most happy; for, I fear, / My soul hath her content so absolute / That not another comfort like to this / Succeeds in unknown fate.
DeleteAct II Scene I
Othello is ecstatic. He managed to get out alive from the battles that raged on at sea. His testosterone levels are high, his face is probably in a goofy grin, and how cute, his wife is here. Othello is looking really far ahead in the future for this statement, he hopes that none of this were to happen on worse terms. I’d rather go to Heaven than Hell. Othello is breaking ground, he’s laying the foundation for a stronger bond between he and Desdemona. He knows that their distance during these battles will only make them stronger. At most, Desdemona’s anxiety will make her cling to him all the more.Though this might seem just a bit pessimistic in our eyes, it’s understandable that as a general of the Venetian army, he’s entitled to such thinking. The guy sees death whenever he steps foot into a war zone, he was a prisoner of war, he’s been a slave. Othello is all these things, but all of that is cast away because he is now also Desdemona’s husband. Othello will fight through every battle to come home to his Desdemona. And this is huge. This shows devotion and intent, Othello is not just trying to be sappy and romantic. He’s making a promise, one that demands to be kept.
I agree with Sam, not only do we see the misogyny of Iago's ways in the beginning of the play, but throughout its entirety. In act 4, scene 1 (on page 62), Iago is using his talent at speech craft to slip the idea into Othello's head that Desdemona could not possibly be loyal. "O, 't is the spite of hell, the fiend's arch-moch, to lip a wanton in a secure couch, and to suppose her chaste!" He presents the idea as one that only a mad man or an act of the devil could possibly make a man believe such an absurd thing. But he only brings this up after Othello's become slightly suspicious. It almost like Iago's picking at a wound, but only began his work after the initial blow has been dealt. Then, ever so slowly, Iago peels back the flesh at an agonizing rate, just to inflict pain on his subject, in this case Othello. It does, however, only add fuel to the fire. Othello only needed conformation from someone he trusts about Desdemona’s infidelity, but he has yet to realize that also he is scraping away at the open wound, and even the sands in the hourglass begin to speed up.
DeleteIn Sam O’Connor’s blog post concerning Iago and his blatant misogyny, the genuine arrogance and lazy ignorance of the character is greatly emphasized. Likewise, especially through Iago’s contempt towards his wife, Emilia, the exploration of this implied villain’s identity may be initiated.
DeleteAlthough during this time period the idea of women being literal possessions of men was enforced, Iago seems to excessively smother this wedge of granted superiority to a point where he is essentially lacking basic human compassion. His proudly flaunted disrespect for women could perhaps stem from some underlying insecurity, otherwise he would publicly act more courteously, like Othello did when he deemed Desdemona’s feelings valid and of significance when speaking with the Duke. In any case, by nestling himself in the security of statuses, Iago maybe feels the comfort of relevance and the alleviation of having an alleged purpose in life. It is possible that by degrading others to assert some upper hand, Iago is trying to make up for all that he lacks. Not only can this mean he deliberately neglects to regard women as equal human beings, but also this implies that he does so to reach for higher rungs on the social ladder, ultimately aiming to arrive at lieutenant. Once he assures himself that he is of grander importance than certain other people, Iago then ignites the notion that he is worthy and deserving of holding an admirable rank. From this hubris comes a seething desire that obliterates all rationality, as is shown when Iago plots vicious revenge against Othello for not granting him a position he thought he deserved.
However, it is not necessarily narcissistic or selfish to want the best for oneself, especially if felt just. Furthermore, it is certainly not a bad thing for Iago to love himself enough to pursue his dreams, even if it is often seen as immodest or greedy. So he is understandable in the sense that he felt his abilities were overlooked. Nevertheless, that feeling of rejection swelled into something more dangerous, significantly altering his sanity. Accordingly, this exclusion being perceived as if he were cheated out of the position, Iago could not tame his rage and passion that drove him to seek retribution. If only he sensibly examined himself, comparing his attributes to Cassio, who had been designated lieutenant over him, he may have better understood the decision Othello made. However, Iago blinded himself, only recognizing the magnificence of his competence, being oblivious to the foulness of his faults. Still, although Iago may have exaggerated his fitness for lieutenant, he is unwaveringly confident that that is his rightful position, stating, “I know my price, I am worth no worse a place,” (page 1).
So, stampeding over people thought to be ranked lesser than himself, Iago ruthlessly shoves his way towards lieutenancy.
-Sarah Kowaleski
I really like how Praise mentioned the "promise" that Othello has made between himself and Desdemona. As she said, Othello has seen a whole lot of bad during his time on this planet so he knows how quickly death can creep up and snatch a loved one away. Yet, here he is making this promise to be together with her forever no matter how far apart they are. Perhaps this is what angered Othello the most when Iago manipulated him into thinking that Desdemona was cheating on him. As of we were currently are in the play, Othello somehow believes that the adultery between Cassio . and Desdemona was going to happen at some point and was unavoidable. " 'T is destiny unshunnable, like death: Even then this forked plague is fated to us when we do quicken" (Shakespeare 48). The man who once saw good and stability in his marriage has been torn and shaken. As I see it, Desdemona, though in his life for a short time, was some sort of a "constant" or a rock for Othello. Now matter how the latest battle went, she would still be in love with him and would still give him all the attention he needed. With the thought of Desdemona leaving him, he breaks down and Iago succeeds.
DeleteI agree completely with what Sam is saying. Iago uses his words and speeches to his advantage and it adds to his malicious character. However, I also think he uses his words as a method of protection. I believe that there is something that caused him to be the way he is today. This is the only explanation that I can think of for his terrible personality, that he has been hurt before and it turned him bitter and cruel. I think that he focuses on ruining others because he wants others to feel the way he did at one point. (This was briefly mentioned in the discussion) Maybe part of the reason why he is such a misogynist is because he has been hurt by a woman before.
DeleteThe lines that begin the quote Sam used are
"Come on, come on. You are pictures out of door, bells in your parlors, wild-cats in your kitchen..." I read this as Iago saying that all women are the same, as he seems to be referencing all.Often when someone is hurt by a loved one they have a hard time getting over it and moving on, this is often a variation of how they feel. We don't know much about Iago's past and therefore cannot be sure on any of this however I think that Iago uses his smooth words not only to hurt but to protect himself.
Reading back on Praise's blog it almost gives me a sense of terrible irony. That reading earlier in the play we all had the faith and were given the impression that Othello and Desdemona's relationship would last for as long as they both shall live. The question of whether Othello really loved
DeleteDesdemona was brought up in the discussion, and there were a mix of opinions. Othello at this point in the play has been completely corrupted by jealously and the idea of Cassio and Desdemona having an affair. He hits Desdemona in public and calls her the "devil", clashing with Praise's original observation that Desdemona was angelic and heavenly to Othello. Would someone who was in love call their lover a devil? many would say no. I disagree however, I think that even though Othello did some unforgivable actions he still loves Desdemona. His love for her has been turned unhealthy and obsessive, setting up the stage for what is given to be a tragic ending. (it says so on the back cover)
Marina Angelopoulos
LIGHT
ReplyDelete“Making it light to Cassio.” (page 35)
DeleteIn this passage Othello is talking and telling Iago that he loves him, but he is never going to be one of his officers, because Cassio is always going to take his spot. He uses the word light in reference to telling him that it needs to be made obvious to Cassio that he is the Lieutenant. Directly before this, Iago gives a long speech, saying that he loves Cassio and he wouldn’t ever want to say anything mean to him. He then says that the truth needs to be told about the General, and tells him about how he got so angry and had a sword fight. He then explains that nobody is perfect and everyone gets angry at some point in their life. In this passage, Iago is talking as if he loves Cassio, and he has never done anything to harm him. By reading earlier in the book, it has been made clear that Iago does not like Cassio for reason being that he stole the Lieutenant job. It is obvious that Iago is just pretending and in that passage after this, that Othello quotes about the light, he is saying that he knows that he doesn’t like Cassio deep down in his soul.
DARK/NIGHT
ReplyDelete“Hell and night Must bring this monstrous birth to the world’s light.” (Shakespeare 20)
DeleteDavid Buhrmaster
As the last line in Act I of Othello, this quote carries more weight than most within the play. This feels safe to say, as the line encompasses not just one, but at least four different motifs that are utilized by Shakespeare throughout the play (those of “Night,” “Hell,” “Monster/Beast,” and “Light”). Iago has just come up with what seems to be the perfect plan to not only ruin Othello, but also get rid of Cassio in the process. In this line, Iago refers to his new master plan as “this monstrous birth,” characterizing his plan as an evil monster, just being born into the world by “Hell and night,” the monster’s parents. Hell and night are very clearly associated with all things evil and shrouded in darkness. The second half of the quote, “bring this… to the world’s light,” implies that he wants to take these awful, dark qualities and bring them into the opposite of lightness, honestly and happiness. He intends to taint the world’s joy and wonders with his evil creation.
By characterizing his monstrous plan as the child of such evil concepts as Hell and night, and contrasting it with the positive images of birth and light, Iago not only recognizes the foul origins of his plan (from the deep, dark hatred he holds within), but also shows he is confident that his plan will diminish all hope and joy from the lives of his enemies.
I agree with David- Iago's plan at this point in the play has totally succeeded in terms of corrupting Othello. Othello says "O, that the slave had forty thousand lives! ... For't is of aspics' tongues! (Shakespeare 53). Othello is basically saying how all the love he ever felt had completely disappeared and turned to darkness. Within the above paragraph, Othello says “Arise, black vengeance, from thy hollow cell!” (Shakespeare 53). [David] When you mentioned how Iago’s intention was to diminish joy and hope from the subjects of his plan, you were extremely correct. This prediction was directly displayed in the above quote(s). Othello is completely changed from how he was in the beginning part of the play, and here he speaks with so much rage that it almost sounds like a line that Iago would be saying in reference to one of his enemies, not how Othello would speak about Cassio/Desdemona. By using the phrase “black vengeance” Othello shows how his hatred is dark and deep, and mentions how he blows his fond love to heaven. He is kind of painting the picture that all of his emotions have turned dark and he relinquished his happiness and love to heaven.
DeleteBLOOD
ReplyDelete"O heaven! How got she out! O treason of the blood! (Shakespeare 6).
DeleteThis quote is when Roderigo and Iago are explaining to Barbantio what they believe Desdemona and Othello have done. Barbantio is wondering how on earth Desdemoma escaped out of the house with out him noticing. I believe when Barbantio says blood he is referring to blood as in family. He can not believe that Desdemona who shares his blood, would betray him. Barbantio is underlining the importance of family back than, and that their would be no worse thing than to betray ones family. In Barbantio's eyes, Desdemona has dishonored the family by running off with Othello, who is an outsider in society. Barbantio exclaims "O heaven!" As of to say "What in gods name" possibly referring to the fact that he may feel like heaven and God are never on his side. Exclamation points are used after every sentence to punctuate his annoyance and frustration.
"And you of her, the bloody book of law." (pg 12)
DeleteIn this passage, quoted by Duke, he is saying that whoever the person was that tried to trick your daughter and stealing her will get payback. He then states that he will give him the appropriate punishment, which is why he refers to blood in this passage. This is said immediately after Brabantio is told that his daughter is dead, and he says Ay, to me. By saying this, he is saying that it doesn't matter to him that Desdemona is dead, because he is so angry about what she did with Othello. Directly after this, is when Duke refers to the blood saying that whoever was involved in the situation with Desdemona is going to have to pay for it. This quote shows many aspects of the text. This particular part shows 2 separate sides of Brabantio. One side of him is shown when he says “Ay to me” because he is saying that his daughter doesn’t matter to him. One could argue that he is not caring enough for his daughter. After this, he uses blood to threaten the life of the person interfering with his daughter, showing that he is angry, but also a loving and protective father as well.
"I do confess the vices of my blood, so justly to your grave ears ill present" (pg. 13)
DeleteI think in this quote Othello is making it clear to everyone in the assembly that he understands that these people are not going to see him eye to eye, although he thinks he's earned the same respect everyone else is given ( and he has). he's saying that most of the people in the room do not approve of the marriage between Desdemona and Othello because of the color of his skin and his lineage, but he's willing to make his claim still and with that thought in mind. the importance of this point to me, at least is how little this idea has changed since the period that Shakespeare wrote this piece. the idea of interracial marriage is no longer "frowned upon" per say but people will throw more than one awkward glance at a happy couple. as someone who has been able to witness the greatness of interracial marriages and relationships in my life, I empathize with Othello and Desdemona. to me they see nothing wrong with the sanctity of their marriage but they will do whatever it takes to be together, even if it means sinking to these peoples, narrow minded level.
I agree with Gus, Othello may have been respected because of his success and position but people would always view him as an outsider and be a little racist. Like in the quote “Her father loved me, oft invited me…” (Page 13) Othello explains how Brabantio used to invite Othello over for dinner, as a friend would and he would listen to his tales of war and all he had been through. Brabantio respected him and trusted him to come into his home but once he found out that Othello and Desdemona had gotten married he became furious and accused Othello of tricking Desdemona into marrying him. “She is abused, stol’n from me and corrupted…” (Page 11) This topic reminds me of the question we discussed in class; is Shakespeare racist? (Part of question 8) I don’t think he is he only puts racism in the play to add to the drama because if he was racist why would he have Othello be the victim of everything?
DeleteGus brings up the fact that Shakespeare’s choice of a tragic hero was extremely unusual for the day and age he was writing Othello in. Danielle’s response is taking on a more logical viewpoint and developing it further. I know this is English class but I can’t help but talk about the play’s historical context. It’s weird to think that this wasn’t brought up in the discussion, but I think what happened in the year Shakespeare wrote Othello in is definitely key when discussing why he decided to center it around miscegeneration.
DeleteThe Globe Theater had been closed down in 1603, the year Othello was presumably written. This was due to the second plague epidemic that had reached London. In my opinion, Shakespeare needed a sensational play scheduled to open in the next year that would get the the Globe’s business back on track. And how else to do this but to take the social scene by storm by announcing a play centered around a black man? Would it be a statement on the black death? A tribute to Shakespeare’s new royal patron, James the First? The metaphors that could be conjured, the opinions made, the plots imagined, all without the play not even being released yet. London would be buzzing from the anticipation alone.
Gus’ point of Shakespeare wanting to portray an interracial relationship in a world where it was frowned upon is potent, but the setting and the situation in which Shakespeare wrote Othello in brings in a different view. I can see Shakespeare using Othello as a backdrop for both a boom in business and an awakening in London’s stereotypes but the first takes precedence in my mind. Playwrights in the 1600s were vying for public attention and Shakespeare already had most of London under his spell but by becoming slightly more controversial (testing the waters with the new monarch perhaps?) with this new play, he would rope more viewers in by appealing to sheer curiosity.
I agree with Gus. The racist view of this play is really brought out in scenes that involve Othello and others who are bellow him. The general position is something that should be worshiped and given the utmost respect but since Othello is black he is not treated as a white general would have been. When Gus says that he has deserved this generals position he is correct. The way that Othello speaks and the tone of his voice just shows that he has the most respect for anyone no matter who they are. He tries his best to see the good in people, but maybe his perception of Iago is a little fogged judging by lines like these, "And for I know thou 'rt full of love and honesty"(44). But as the readers we know much more about Iago's true character. As far as racism in this book goes it is really projected in the beginning when is referenced to an "old black ram". It is things like this that no one would ever dare say about a general if they were of a different race, but since Othello is this portrayed monster and horrible person, he is not even given a glimpse of the respect that he should be seeing from his piers on a day to day basis.
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ReplyDeleteLarissa Vassolas
Delete"Even now, now, very now, an old black ram
Is tupping your white ewe." -Iago
Simply put, Iago is saying this to Brabantio so he can put Othello in the worst light possible. Iago, of course, intends to spark nothing short of rage in Brabantio which would cause at least a little anguish. When Brabantio hears Iago describing his daughter as a pure, white ewe (which I'm sure he believed her to be anyway), being essentially soiled by the impurity and lowliness of a black ram, it's no wonder he reacted in such a way. He is mortified to hear someone use such crude language as to suggest that HIS Desdemona, his pure and gentle Desdemona, could possibly be having a sexual affair with someone so repulsive as the Moor. This also helped to develop Brabantio's character as the over-protective father, and racist man stuck in possibly old ways of thinking (considering everyone else accepted Othello for the most part despite the color of his skin). Iago, being not only bitter, but also slightly off in his mindset, takes pleasure in the thought of Othello suffering at the hand of his supposed lover's father. We also get the character development of Iago a bit more here, and we see that he is nothing but a selfish, sore loser (to put it elegantly). This doubt, however, that is envied would only prove to strengthen the relationship between Othello and Desdemona that much more, with the element of deviance now a factor.
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Delete“Your son-in-law is more fair than black.”- Duke(18)
DeleteLydia Kerchner
The duke says this statement to Brabantio just as the council is disbanding after talking about war and the marriage. Black and white is defiantly prevalent to this conversation at the meeting because the whole problem with the marriage was, they were of different races and that wasn’t acceptable. It is also foreshowing the black and fair conversation between Iago and Desdemona when they are waiting for Othello to return from battle. At first this seems like a racist comment on Othello’s skin color but on closer examination it is a complement by the Duke to Othello. If you replace the word black with ugly or mean spirted and the word fair, which also means white, with beautiful this line makes more sense. What the Duke is saying: your son in law is not horrible he is a great man and you are lucky to have such a great man for your daughter. The use of these words is defiantly intentional, Shakespeare could have used mean and beautiful but he chose these words because they have that double meaning pertaining to race.
"Even now, now, very now, an old black ram
DeleteIs tupping your white ewe" -Iago(3)
Erica Wasserbach
In this quote you realize that the racial difference between Othello and the rest is a problem, at least for Iago. The way that this is said it almost sounds like that your daughter (towards Brabantio) is being almost harassed by and old disgusting black man. The first opinion that the reader could have on Othello would be from Iago's point of view because the way that the audience sees it is that, the real enemy is Othello because of his refusal to give the lieutenant position to Iago. Which almost makes you empathize and feel bad for him. When really this is Iago's plan all along is to slowly turn everyone against Othello almost "behind the scenes". You are then later in the book introduced to Othello himself, and he comes across as nothing short of a respectful and reasonable man who is sympathetic and understanding towards what everyone has to say. Really, Othello has done nothing wrong because the reader comes to see later on that he really is in love with Desdemona and he is not just in the relationship for sexual reasons, as imploied in the old black ram quote. This quote made Othello seem sneaky, conniving, and evil. Where as really the roles are actually reversed between the two characters.
"Even now, now, very now, an old black ram / Is tupping your white ewe.."
DeleteThis motif is used by Iago when waking up Brabantio. Iago's use of adjectives intensifies the situation, making it seem worse than it really is. He uses "black ram" to refer to Othello to make him seem dirty, rough, and dangerous. When referring to Desdemona he uses "white ewe" which implies purity and innocence. Iago uses strong language to paint a picture of an event that wasn't even confirmed to be occurring. His use of language convinces both the reader and Brabantio of Othello and Desdemona's wrong doings. Black and White becomes a theme in this play. Shakespeare used these terms to refer to race, good vs. bad, corrupted vs. pure, and many other contrasting ideas.
I agree with Rosa and I think that Shakespeare is using black as an adjective meaning mean spirited and ugly. I also think it can be interpreted as black meaning his race. Shakespeare chose to make Othello valiant and a flawless leader, only he was black. I think that Shakespeare did this to deconstruct stereotypes; he made the warrior hero a man who was disliked because he had married a white woman, in a time when racism was prevalent. His purpose for making the main hero black was to tell his audience in a non-radical way that racism was bad. He shows us this by adding lines such as “Thanks, you the valiant of the warlike isle…For I have lost him on this dangerous sea” (22). Cassio says The Moor in this quote just to reinforce that he is black but then he goes on to say how he hopes he has made it because he is such a good general. This shows that even though Othello is black his troops still respect him because he is a good leader. Shakespeare uses many lines to reverse stereotypes and this is only one of the many.
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DeleteI don’t necessarily disagree with Lydia on this, but I’m going to play devil’s advocate and present another side of this argument. While it’s true that there is some deconstruction of stereotypes present in the beginning of the play, it also pays off to keep in mind that Othello doesn't remain the valiant, good-hearted man he started off as. The fact that Othello is so easily brought to kill the very woman he claimed to love contrasts entirely with his former nature, and can make the reader wonder if Othello is truly such a good guy. Even if it was a result of Iago’s masterful persuasion and evil schemes, it’s simply not normal for someone to up and decide to murder their wife and their good friend way Othello did. During Shakespeare’s time, black people were seen as less than their lighter-skinned counterparts. It wouldn't be outrageous to go so far as to say that they were seen almost as animals, less advanced in intelligence, and with less sophisticated emotions. This general theme is brought up, for example, when Iago says in Act I Scene III, “If the balance of our lives had not one scale of reason… our unbitten lusts.” He’s essentially saying that reason –something exclusive to humanity – is all that allows humans to control their anger and quell their lusts. Othello’s decision to kill Desdemona, and his sudden and complete loss of command over his emotions, matches up with what Iago hints at something subhuman or even animalistic being, even if, in the quote, he was not applying this to Othello. It seems likely enough, at least to me, that rather than deconstructing the stereotypes of the time, Shakespeare was supporting them by causing the audience to question whether Othello’s true nature is that of a human or beast.
DeleteGoing off of the discussion concerning how Shakespeare uses the contrast of black and white, I'd like to say something that came to mind just before the bell rang last class. After thinking of how "binary" our world is, I realized that maybe Shakespeare say that and really wanted to change it. not just in the sense of race, but even social class and gender. Originally in the play, Othello is built up by Iago to be this awful monster when in reality, he's pretty nice. Then, this is the part that got me, Shakespeare tears Othello down again with the use of the manipulative Iago. Several times, I asked myself why and then I knew that I was thinking too "binary" again. The message wasn't as clear as it appeared to be. He wasn't just breaking racism and sexism. Instead, he was breaking everyone. It didn't matter if you were a man, woman, general, peasant, Venetian, or a slave. You could still be torn apart by someone whispering in your ear.
DeleteI tend to agree with Larissa's analysis of Iago's quote. However, when I read the quote, I think of Iago's true motivations behind his words. During the discussion, the topic of Iago's sanity was brought up as a result of question 1. I personally believe that Iago is completely paranoid, yet he can understand his paranoia and use it against others. Iago beleives that Emilia and Othello had an affair, and he fuels his hatred for Othello with this idea. I like to think that Iago can understand this emotion, and he uses this emotion against other people. Making other people jealous and uncertain is Iago's way of manipulating others into getting the results he wants. I believe that this quote demonstrates all of these emotions very well. Iago recognizes that he can manipulate Brabantio's uncertainty of his daughter, yet at the same time, he is incredibly fueled by the same emotions he manipulates. This is what makes Iago a brilliant psychopath.
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ReplyDelete“O my soul’s joy! …
Delete...My soul hath her content so absolute That not another comfort like to this Succeeds in unknown fate” (Shakespeare 26). -Othello’s 2nd line on the page
Here, as soon as Othello returns from battle, he keeps referring to his soul when him and Desdemona reunite. I interpret this as him saying that if he died right then he could die happy, and his soul would be content. This displays how passionate Othello is, and I also think that it proves that his love for Desdemona is more than lust at this point. When Othello says “O my soul’s joy!” he is basically exclaiming that Desdemona is the key to his soul being happy and complete. Othello feels so deeply that him and Desdemona are meant to be. He is so happy to see her that he says he would even repeat the battles if he could get the same feeling he got when he first saw Desdemona again. Othello’s reaction and his word choice show that his love for Desdemona comes from the deepest part of his soul. Clearly, his soul would have been destroyed had he not returned and seen Desdemona should something have happened to either of them.
“Lay thy finger thus, and let thy soul be instructed…” (Shakespeare 27, Iago)
DeleteIago is once again using his speech and metaphors to shape his argument. In this scene, Roderigo is utterly devastated that Brabantio accepted Othello, and the fact that Desdemona and Othello are married. Iago realizes that he needs Roderigo in order to keep getting money, so he uses this weakened opportunity as an excuse to try to squeeze Roderigo’s money from him. When he speaks to Roderigo about letting his soul be instructed, it creates an ethos appeal. When talking about souls and afterlife, they’re normally associated with God, or any deity. When Iago instructs Roderigo, he uses the word “soul” to almost put himself on a pedestal. He associates himself with a higher plane of existence, and he does this to make Roderigo believe in him even more than he already had. This is the brilliance of Iago’s trickery - he subtly lifted himself upon a pedestal in order to make Roderigo utterly submit to and follow him.
" Not I; I must be found: My parts, my title, and my perfect soul, Shall manifest me rightly, Is it they?
DeleteAlex Merrill pg 7
This question Othello asks is during his conversation with Iago. At this point Iago has made up his mind that he hates Othello and is going to do everything in his power to make sure Othello is punished. Although, Othello has absolutely no idea, and thinks him and I ago are still best friends. Iago is warning Othello of the angry men (“like a friend”) getting ready to fight him. Iago suggests that Othello go and hid, but Othello protests, claiming that he must be found. Othello’s logic is that with all of the great things people know he has done, his title, and as he says, his perfect soul, should overpower the one wrongdoing. The reader may realize that Othello is able to point out all the great things he has done, one might take this as seeming cocky, and another may take it as self-respect. He asks Iago what he thinks hoping he will agree, but Iago replies that he doesn’t think so. The whole question is also presented, do all the good things you do weigh out one little mistake? Othello knows his soul is good, and hopes people will realize all the good he has done and that he is truly a good person as well.
I agree with what Alex was saying at this point in the book. Othello had everything he could want, and so his confidence was high which is why he came across so cocky. Throughout the first two acts of the play, we get to see confident Othello. He is respectful, happy, and is considered a good man. However, the seconds two acts of the play (acts 3 and 4) lead us to question whether his soul really is perfect.
DeleteOn page 4 in act 3 Othello has just been convinced by Iago that Desdemona is unfaithful. He then begins to question her reasoning for this and goes on to say "...Haply, for I am black And have not those soft parts of conversation That chambers have, or for I am declined to vale of years..." This is one of the first times as readers we get to see the insecure side of Othello. In these lines Othello is saying that he thinks Desdemona has become unfaithful because he is black, because his manners are not superb or because he is too old. I think that what really leads to Othello's change in behavior/mind is not only the jealousy but the lack of confidence that comes with jealousy.
In the discussion, we talked about the fact that no matter what happens next, the thought that Desdemona is being unfaithful will always be in the back of his mind. As long as the thought/threat is in the back of his mind, his lack of confidence also will be and I think that is why I think it is almost impossible for Othello to overcome his jealousy and go back to the person he was when he said the lines
"Not I; I must be found: My parts, my title, and my perfect soul..."
I really like Sam's analysis of this method of persuasion Iago used. It's interesting how Iago uses ethos in so many ways -- a lot of times (in the modern era, at least,) ethos is just something like "I have a PhD, trust me on this," but Iago finds all sorts of ways, both subtle and more obvious, to make himself seem more trustworthy. This can also be seen in places like when Iago is talking to Cassio and telling him to appeal to Desdemona to get his job back after his fight with Montano. He says, “As I am an honest man…” (pg. 36,) probably referring to the way he is called “Honest Iago” by many people, and reminding Cassio of his reputation as a trustworthy person, the type who wouldn’t deceive anyone, before coming out and presenting his argument. Iago knows that reputation is very important to Cassio from the way he broke down after having his own ruined, and he was able to use this against him. Iago’s ability to creatively use this method of persuasion on everyone is part of what makes him such an effective villain.
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ReplyDeleteLauren Serotta
Delete“Though I do hate him as I do hell pains, yet for necessity of present life, I must show out a flag and sign of love”(Shakespeare 5).
In this quote Iago is telling Roderigo that even though he hates Othello very much, it’s necessary for him to show signs of loyalty towards him. This quote shows how two-faced and deceiving Iago is. He is on his way over to warn Othello that Barbantio and his men are coming. When right before this Iago was the one getting Barbantio all fired up and was making racist remarks about Othello. Othello has no idea that Iago made racist comments about him and that it was Iago who told Barbantio about him and Desdemona. Iago is betraying Othello; in doing this he is not being loyal to him. Since Othello is superior to Iago, Iago is supposed to be loyal and obedient to him. All of this proves that Iago wasn’t cut for the position he wanted because any responsible person wouldn’t handle the situation the way Iago is. Instead he should have talked to Othello about why he didn’t get the position. I wouldn’t trust Iago with anything because he is full of lies and betrayal.
"Honest Iago, My Desdemona must I leave to thee:" (Shakespeare 18).
DeleteThis motif of “Honest Iago” is repeated by Othello, and displays not only the trust Othello has in Iago but also the betrayal of Iago. This line is almost painful to read, seeing as we, the readers, know that Iago is in fact not honest at all. Iago seems to be very good at disguising his pure hatred for Othello, since Othello seems to believe that he can entrust Iago with the person most important to him, Desdemona. Iago is lying to not only Othello, but he holds all the strings that lead to every character who is a part of his master plan to seek vengeance on Othello. Iago has no problem carrying out this plan, even if it means ruining a few other peoples lives while he is at it. Iago has deceived all of the characters that we have yet been introduced to, even Roderigo. Roderigo doesn’t know much about Iago’s plan, but he does know that Iago hates Othello. Othello calling Iago an honest and true man just further emphasizes that Iago has possibly been deceiving him and everyone else for a while. Nobody who is not part of the plan has any idea of Iago’s true feelings except for Roderigo and maybe Brabantio.
“Look to her, Moor, if thou hast eyes to see: / She has deceived her father, and may thee.” (page 18)
DeleteFuming from his daughter’s rejection and betrayal, Brabantio, a respected Senator, sputters this bitter remark to Othello, the man whom his daughter, Desdemona, married without his consent. Although his words are distinctly laced with a venomous rage and bravado, they do embody a sort of reasoning that should implant some doubt within Othello. Obviously, for his nature is so naïve and trusting, Othello immediately rejects the consideration of his wife being anything but loyal to him. However, as the rhyming lines emphasize its importance and prominence, the statement is sure to resound throughout the play. It may even foreshadow Desdemona deceiving Othello, although, even more likely, she will be perceived as treacherous by him, no matter her innocence, through the manipulation of Iago, whom despises Othello and revels in his misery. Moreover, Iago’s plan to corrupt Othello’s kind heart and open mind revolves around the ultimate idea that Desdemona could be having an affair with another man. If Iago is successful in his attempt to depict the wife as unfaithful, even in a hinting way, this proclamation made by her father will just enhance and cement Othello’s doubts. This initiation of suspicion is necessary, otherwise Othello may not be fully persuaded. By him being exposed to numerous occasions of distrust and uncertainty, it will later on be more believable when a supposed affair is announced. Slowly accumulating this apprehension, the structure of the play is being further developed, maybe leading Othello straight into Iago’s trap. Furthermore, Brabantio’s impassioned cry definitely could make Othello’s confidence falter. Also, his point made kind of appeals to ethos, meaning that what he is saying is trusted by the audience since they are aware he has experienced his daughter deceiving him. At that time, women were considered property, therefore belonging to either their father or their husband. In this case, Desdemona shifted her loyalty towards her husband, abandoning her father. So, as Brabantio declares that she has no problem with being disloyal to the person who possesses her, even so when he loved and raised her well, it becomes clear that she could just as well do the same to Othello, who cares for her just as deeply. Anyway, quite distinctly, betrayal has ignited the intentions and actions of so many characters throughout the story, developing the plot with conflict and purpose.
-Sarah Kowaleski
Bhav Singh
Delete“Her father loved me, oft invited me,
Still questioned me the story of my life...”(Pages 13-14)
This is the quote by Othello when he is having a conversation with Brabantio and Desdemona. This quote really caught my attention because I sense that Othello feels deceived by his “father in-law”. They used to talk all the time about his adventures, they were friends. But after this marriage I think that Othello believes that Brabantio’s feelings for him have gone away. Also this quote also reveals that Desdemona was interested into Othello’s stories when he came by and that is when they fell in love. What really caught my eye and feelings was how emotional Othello got when saying this quote(or at least how emotional it felt), being a militaristic man you would think that he’d be tough. The idea that popped into my head after reading this quote was if Brabantio was going to give Othello his blessing after hearing this long speech on memories. Before I knew that Othello loved Desdemona I thought that they wandered upon each other and love struck, but actually they have had past encounters with each other. Just knowing Brabantio knew Othello before might just make things weird because he probably knows a lot of stuff about Othello. A specific word, or piece of text, that really hooked me was when Othello says “sold to slavery”, this really got me going on the “Moor” situation, maybe he is called the Moor because of his past experience as a slave. I think that these past encounters have made Othello very tough, some encounters such as his battles and sieges in places like the deserts and caves. Othello’s character has definitely evolved. I also think that when he says “she’ld come again, with a greedy air” really shows that they were meant for each other. This is the part of the quote where he talks about Desdemona and how they came to be.
Brabantio pg. 18: “Look to her, Moor, if thou hast eyes to see: / She has deceived her father, and may thee.”
DeleteIn this quote Brabantio is warning Othello of Desdemonas deceptive ways. It is said to Othello as Brabantio is leaving the meeting of the war officials. The definition of deceive is to mislead by false appearance or statement; to delude. The word deceive is often used to refer to someone being sneaky, it’s often used when describing affairs. It’s weird that Brabantio would you this term about his daughter. The fact that he used deceive to describe Desdemonas actions gives us an insight into the kind of relationship Desdemona and Brabantio had before Othello came into the picture. It also gives us an insight into the time period, at this time women were to be faithful to their fathers, meaning obey them at all costs, until the father gave them away to a husband, usually of their choosing. Desdemona went behind her fathers back and married a man that he did not approve of causing Brabantio to act out and give a warning to Othello.
I agree with Lauren when she was saying how even though Iago hates Othello, he still needs to show signs of loyalty towards him. Now getting further through the book, you see that Iago has to show signs of loyalty to everyone in able for his plan to work out perfectly. Thus ultimately he is betraying just about everyone in the book either by lying to their face or by deceiving them into doing the dirty work for him. Another quote to pull out the motif of betrayal is when Iago is speaking after Othello had fainted from thinking about Desdemona’s affairs, “Work on, My medicine, work! Thus credulous fools are caught; And many worthy and chaste dames even thus, All guiltless, meet reproach. What, ho! my lord! My lord, I say! Othello!”(Shakespeare 61). Here you see the betrayal in action, Iago goes from talking about how Othello has finally fallen for the lies he has told, and then he immediately tries to wake Othello up acting all worried and showing him respect. The whole idea of lies and betrayal has come so far since the beginning of the book, now we can see that Iago is just swimming in a pool of deception. He clearly has Othello hooked because of the lies about Desdemona, then he has deceived Roderigo because he has convinced Roderigo to kill Cassio for him. Then he has convinced Cassio that if he pushes towards Othello more he might get his job back or if he talks to Desdemona about it that could help to, which is not the case because Othello already thinks that Cassio and Desdemona are having an affair. Iago has everything planned out perfectly and now we will just have to see if everyone finally figures out what Iago has done and if he will face consequences for it.
Deletei agree with Rosa, and i think this quote fits in very well with what Othellos rage is all about in act III. Othello ends up taking Iagos word and feels a sense of betrayal. " I gave her such a one;" (Shakespeare 53). this is when Othello recieves word that Desdemona had given his handkerchief to Cassio. Again this is where Shakespeare drops little hints that are later followed up. it is so ironic how quickly Othello flips from "my life upon her faith." (Shakespeare 18) to hitting her over a petty accusation.
Deletei think Othellos strong rage, almost an abnormal reaction comes from his history. He is a general, he has witnessed hurt, and deception. There are so many emotions he has bottled up because of the society he lives in, he has to act of a higher standard, and respond differently. He has taught himself not to "fly off the handle" and react with calm responses; at this point i think Othello is fed up and he cares so much about Desdemona he can't help himself but feel a wrath of overwhelming emotions. Othello is overflowing with seething pain and because he loves Desdemona so much this is why her betrayal overwhelms him with pain.
I agree with Sarah. In the beginning of the play, Othello had complete trust in Desdemona and didn’t think twice when Brabantio hinted that Desdemona could have deceived Othello. Throughout the play, the idea of deception has been a main theme, especially being shown through Iago’s speech and actions.
Delete“By the world… You would be satisfied?”(Shakespeare 52).
In this quote said by Othello in Act III, he seems to be very confused about what Iago is telling him about Desdemona. Here, Othello mentions that one minute he trusts Iago and one minute he doesn’t, and he isn’t sure if Desdemona is faithful or not. This shows such a contrast from the beginning of the play when Othello is completely confident that Desdemona has not deceived him, despite Brabantio’s prompting. Othello’s trust in Desdemona in Act III begins to falter, as he becomes more and more suspicious. He does mention that he won’t make a judgement about the statement until he sees proof of Desdemona’s treachery, but Othello is not confident at all and seems to be very disturbed and confused. When Brabantio initially warned Othello about Desdemona’s supposed deceptive nature, Othello shrugged it off. As discussed in the seminar in class, Othello probably didn’t take Brabantio’s words to heart as much as he did with Iago’s. Although Brabantio was a well respected Senator, Othello didn’t seem to take his opinion into account when it came to Desdemona. Othello has known Iago for much longer and they have a different type of bond, so Othello seems to trust Iago, at least to a certain level. After hearing Iago’s opinions on Desdemona, Othello probably took Brabantio’s statement way more seriously. At this point in the play, Othello’s trust in Desdemona’s faithfulness is dwindling lower than seemingly possible. At the conclusion of Act III Othello makes the vow with Iago to murder Desdemona, and in turn Iago will kill Othello. Othello, at this point, clearly believes that Desdemona has deceived him and will stop at nothing to make her pay for what she supposedly did.
@Lauren
DeleteI agree with Lauren as well. I think that in the quote that was stated above, Iago is showing the nicer side of him. It refers to him as “Honest Iago”. As the readers, we all know that he is in no way honest. He is deceiving, and tricks people, and lies, and does everything he can to get his way. When he says that he must “show out a flag and sign of love”, he is telling the reader that he is honest and trying to let people know that that is who he is. This can be very deceiving, tho because anyone who doesn’t know his background will believe that this is who he is. Also, I agree when you say that he is two-faced, about how he is trying to work Othello and Brabantio against each other. In the beginning of the play, when Brabantio first finds out about Desdemona and Othello, he instantly goes to Brabantio to tell him, mainly to break the love between Desdemona and her dad. On the other hand, he was telling Othello opposite remarks mainly trying to get everyone against each other. This proves what a terrible person Iago is, and how he can use 2 different people, work them against each other, and end up getting his way.
I agree with Rosa about the quote on page 18, it is weird that Brabantio would use such language against his daughter at first glance but after reading further in the book I found it was all purposeful and used later on as a seed of doubt that would help fuel Othello’s jealousy. I feel like this quote goes along with question 9 that we talked about during class on Friday; How was the audience set up to feel about Desdemona? I feel like we were supposed to think of her as a strong woman who knows what she wants even if it doesn’t please everyone. But in the play not everyone views her in that was. Brabantio thinks of her as someone he can control and will obey him and his every wish, like when he wanted her to say that Othello tricked her into marrying him “ Come here gentle mistress: Do you perceive in all this noble company where most you owe obedience?” (Page 15) Eventually Othello thinks of Desdemona as unfaithful and it all started with that seed of doubt from Brabantio’s harsh words.
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DeleteI totally agree with Meghan. I think that when Othello keeps repeating this line in the play, it is very hard for the readers to hear him say this. I just wanted Othello to be able to see how dark and twisted Iago really is. “Honest Iago”, is the line that Othello keeps repeating over and over again. This is very ironic considering that Iago’s evil master plan is in full force on how to ruin Othello’s life. In the discussion, it was brought up that many people really did believe that Othello trusted Iago. Many people thought that Othello was too caught up in the whole situation that he did not have any time to think about it. Another point brought up in the discussion was that obviously Othello is going to give a second thought to the idea that his wife is cheating on him. Even if someone had total trust in their wife they are still going to be a little bit troubled if they were told that their wife is cheating on them. Othello repeating the phrase honest Iago truly show how manipulative yet brilliant Iago’s plan really is.
DeleteMeghan does a nice job of addressing both sides of this motif. It shows up in another form on page 44. “And for I know thou ‘rt full of love and honesty” (Shakespeare 44). This is Othello speaking to Honest Iago! As Meghan wrote we can see the mistrust Othello puts in Iago and the loyalty Iago completely fails to demonstrate. He trusts Iago with the most important person in his life, Desdemona. He also allows Honest Iago whom should be referred to as Disloyal Iago to come between him and his number one. Othello must genuinely believe Iago is sincere and honorable. It seems wrong that someone who can watch over Othello’s once prized possession can dispose of that possession on command. Obviously both Othello and Iago have the ability to kill due to the fact they are military men but a loved one or even once loved one? That is drastic. I strongly agree with Meghan’s view on how Iago holds the strings of each character. He is the puppet master of this play and controls the actions of all. The lying and betrayals are nothing to him. They never meant anything either. To destroy Othello’s reputation and being altogether Iago will easily bring anyone he needs along for the ride. Also he won’t give any of those people what they were promised in return. For example Roderigo was originally promised his love Desdemona but no way that will happen but Roderigo will then perform acts furthering Iago’s master plan. Iago has the upper hand because he appears warm and caring despite the fact he is truly cold and out to ruin Othello through lies, deception and betrayal.
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ReplyDelete“The Moor is of a free and open nature, that thinks men honest that but seem to be so…” - Iago
DeleteThis line is taken from a soliloquy in which Iago is developing a plan for how he will get back at Othello – he plans to trick him into thinking Desdemona is cheating on him. Here, Iago tells us how he knows that his plan will work. He implies that because Othello is such an open, honest guy, he’s very easily deceived – that he’s so good, he wouldn't expect bad from anyone else. It’s almost like saying that Othello is naïve, like a kid, which carries the connotation of a sort of stupidity. I think it’s interesting how Iago seems to be saying that honesty is in fact a bad attribute, or at least not one that will get you very far in life. It gives a new perspective on him, and how he’s not the type of person to necessarily respect people just for being good people; in fact, he would probably respect Othello more if he weren’t such a nice guy, or if he were able to see through Iago and figure out his scheme. The way Iago twists the things about Othello that most people deem admirable into things that are worthy of scorn also serve to demonstrate the sheer enormity of his bitterness towards Othello. No matter what Othello says or does, Iago will find a way to hate him for it. This can be seen in other parts of the play too, such as when Iago was talks about how Othello may or may not have slept with his wife, but he was going to act like he had, just as another way fuel his anger.
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DeleteIago twists Othello’s honesty and turns it into him being to gullible and stupid. But another thing that stuck out to be was that Iago’s nickname for everybody was “Honest Iago”. It seems that most people admire his honesty, even though it is sometimes a bit brutal. I agree with Rhiannon when she said that Iago connects honesty with something bad, but the other way I saw this was how Iago perceived himself. That is one of his good qualities, but I don’t think he realizes that, because he describes honesty as what rhiannon said, “a bad attribute, and not something that gets you ahead in life.” This raises questions like does Iago himself not believe that he is going to get ahead in life? Does he truly believe that he is 100% evil, with no room to change, and not wanting to change at all?
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ReplyDeleteDanielle Feldman
Delete“Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe” (Shakespeare 3).
Iago is referring to Othello as an old black ram so the image will be even worse for Brabantio. He chooses the term white ewe for Desdemona because he is showing that she is pure and Othello is no good. He also chooses a ewe because it’s an innocent female sheep and that really contrasts to a “black ram.” This is one of the first things Iago says to Brabantio after he got his attention from standing outside his home and waking him. The whole point of Iago’s word choice is to make Brabantio disgusted enough with Othello to get him in trouble. Also the way Iago planned it to wake him up in the middle of the night worked out pretty well for what he was going for. Iago also uses references to animals because it makes it really graphic and he makes sure to use the black and white to really identify skin color but also purity.
"Even now, now, very now, and old black ram is tupping your white ewe.." (line 94-5)
Delete"Your daughter and the Moor are now making the beast with two backs" (line 126-7)
In these quotes Iago uses animal metaphors to convey Othello as inhumanly as possible to his audience, Brabantio. Iago masterfully crafts his words with the intention that he will evoke feelings of disgust and loathing in Brabantio direct them to Othello. Iago calls Othello and "old black ram" and refers to Desdemona as a "white ewe". He makes evident the difference age and uses sexual references to paint a picture that undoubtedly looks wrong, especially to a father's eyes. He makes sure to add the difference in skin tone showing his racism and possibly bringing out Brabantio's own racism. He leaves his audience picturing Othello as a dingy animal or even a beast. We see here Iago's skill with words and his attempt at pathos, focusing on what will really bring out Brabantio's emotions. This is also taking place in the middle of the night where Brabantio has just woken up and will be flustered, making what Iago has to say even more convincing. He reduces Othello's and Desdemona's relationship to that of crazed wild animals with no true love or compassion, which we learn later on that the two do have for each other in abundance.
“...an old black ram is tupping your white ewe.” (Shakespeare 3).
DeleteThis is Iago breaking the news to Brabantio that his daughter is very much with Othello. Also suggesting that Desdemona and Othello are quite intimate. Shakespeare creates a powerful motif with this image. The black ram, a male sheep, is obviously dominant over the white ewe, a female sheep. In addition, the colors are being included bringing up the differing skin color aspect. Black could also represent evil, and the white could represent good and innocence. This line is quite amusing to Iago whom it is not affecting, but very clear and compelling to Brabantio. He could feel multiple emotions after hearing this improper statement. These words could make him feel embarrassed for his family that his daughter would do this behind his back. Also this is the middle of the night! A public humiliation like this and with a prominent figure is definitely not what Brabantio would desire. It builds on Iago’s hatred towards Othello and makes Iago even more delighted that he can make another character feel the same.
"I am one sir, that comes to tell you your daughter and the Moor are making the beast with two backs" (Page 4)
DeleteThis sentence happened in the very beginning of Othello. Iago, schemeimg to get back at Othello and Cassio, went to Signior Barbantio’s house to shed light on the news between his daughter Desdemona and Othello. Iago uses the animal reference to show his apperent racisism against Othello. There are also many other things in Othello that refer to aminals, and their animalistic characteristics. For instance, Iago himself uses many other racial slurs against Othello, such as descibing Othello as an old black ram, and Desdemona as a white ewe. Iago uses these slurs against Othello and the others because it makes him feel powerful, and maybe to bring to others’ views on who he really is as a person. His power rises and keeps rising as they are pushed down.
I agree with Shreema, I too think Othello and Desdemona view their relationship as a honeymoon, and less of actual love. Although, I do not agree with the thought that they actually do love each other. From what I see, it seems that Desdemona has only puppy love to give towards Othello, meaning that she is only sympathetic to the hardships that Othello has faced, and the obstacles that he has overcome in the past. Being a daughter to a very important and well repeated man must mean that Desdemona has not done anything without her fathers consent (besides marrying Othello) and hasn't seen a part of the world any different than hers. Desdemona wants to be a part of something different and new, something that she has not done before, but she would need someone to guide her, and in this case, it is Othello
DeleteOthello on the other hand seems to love Desdemona because of the sympathy that she shows towards him. In this play, it does not show Othello being close to anybody personally before Desdemona, which could mean that he's been lonely throughout his life in, and out of the battlefield. Therefore, when he sees someone actually showing that they appreciate what he has done, of course he's going to jump at the chance and stay with that person. I guess you could say that Othello just wants someone to cuddle with in their past time, rather than truly loving the them. From what it seems, Othello and Desdemona could love each other, but it would not be for the right reasons.
FOOD/APPETITE/HUNGER
ReplyDeleteLarissa Vassolas
Delete"Virtue! a fig! 't is in ourselves that we are thus or thus. Our bodies are gardens..... to be a sect or scion." (basically Iago's entire little spiel there on pages 18-19)
Holy metaphors! This seems like a strange way to comfort someone who is set on killing himself over a girl (hmm where have I seen that before?). While it isn't exactly the most consoling thing Roderigo probably wants to hear, however, Iago makes some interesting points about human nature. At one point he says, "Our bodies are gardens; to which our wills are gardeners..." which, to me, suggests that Iago believes that "our wills" and our desires determine how our bodies act, almost independent of our minds. He, however, counteracts that later by saying, "...we have reason to cool our raging motions..." When he nears the end of his speech, he says something that, in my opinion, ruined the whole comfort aspect. He tells a very emotional (and probably hormonal) Roderigo that what he is feeling is nothing other than primal lust. My question is why, Iago, would you spend many lines making lovely food-related metaphors in order to comfort this man, only to upset him at the end of it all? This also shows Iago's character to be insensitive and selfish (seeing as he is only consoling Roderigo for his own benefit).
“The food that to him now is as luscious as locusts, shall be to him shortly as bitter as coloquintida.” (page 19)
DeleteIn this quote Iago takes something as complicated as love and breaks it down into a bodily need he takes out all of the passion and romance to make it seem temporary and basic. He is trying to reassure Roderigo that Desdemona and Othello won’t last long because love, and or lust, is like being hungry. Once you have eaten to make yourself satisfied you stop and move on, if you eat too much of something at some point you will get sick of it and throw it away. When Iago says this he is saying that Othello will “have too much” of Desdemona and will eventually get sick of her like you would after eating too much of a food. The fact that he is comparing this emotion with such an action is really gross and it also makes you think badly of Othello. He makes Othello seem like such a player and that he has done this before but when Othello actually comes into play you see that he is not at all what they make him out to be. Iago seems to be a fan of using the “food analogy” because he uses it many times throughout the play (so far). Also I kind of got the image of Othello literally getting “sick” from too much of Desdemona and almost spitting her up! Iago is very smart when it comes to his language he knows what will stick in people’s heads, which in this case is food references. I think that every move Iago has made so far is very calculated to benefit only him and no one else.
“her delicate tenderness will find itself abused, begin to heave the gorge, disrelish and abhor the Moor…” (pg 27)
DeleteThis is another example of Iago using “food references” with the concept of love and or lust. This quote is a little more gruesome than his other quotes. It starts off with him saying that after she is “filled” with Othello’s love she will physically get sick of him and she will “heave” until she is rid of him. This brings a really unpleasant mental image to my mind I can picture her throwing him up. This reminds me of the saying “she’s a man eater” that’s one of the first things I thought of when I read this quote. This makes Desdemona seem like harlot who just moves from guy to guy after she’s “full” of them. He is saying that if she stays with Othello for too long she will get sick of him like she always does and will move on to the guy. Iago is the king of using crude language and I feel like he will continue to use this to his advantage and his benefit for the rest of the play.
"The food that to him now is as luscious as locusts shall be to him shortly as bitter as coloquintida." - Iago (Page. 19)
DeleteIn this text, Iago is once again comparing the love Desdemona and Othello have for each other as nothing else then primal animalistic need, such as eating. He turns something that was good and pure and twists his words to make it ugly. Yes, Iago is saying this to Rodrigo, who is so head over heels in love with Desdemona he is almost foaming at the mouth at even the possibility that they might break up, but I think that a piece of his actually believes and thinks that it is the truth. Othello’s and Desdemona’a marraige was a little quick, I think that a part of Iago’s soliliquy is right in confessing how they are just caught up in the idea of what they imagine of each other; however, I do not think that they are just a passing fancy in each others’ eyes. They truly do believe in and care for each other, however I don’t think its as true of a love as the two of them think, especially not now, when they are together in a time which really can be called their “honeymoon phase.” But of course, Iago’s master plan for the destruction of Othello depends on him losing Des, so he twists and turns the story as much as possible so that Rodrigo follows through on his part of the plan to destroy Othello.
I agree with Shreema, I don’t think their love is true love. I think Othello only loved her as an admirer or a fan because he even says “I loved her that she did pity them[his stories]”(14). This quote says that Othello “loves” her because she focuses on him. This becomes important later in the play when Desdemona is focusing all her attention on Cassio, trying to help him regain his job. I think it is what sets Othello off , when Desdemona pays attention to another man, that’s what Othello want her to do to him, give her full attention to. Ultimately this and Iago's influence drives Othello into a rage where he kills Desdemona.
DeleteI agree with Danielle Harrington on her view concerning the quote on page 19. Iago creates the allusion that love is only a physical thing, that the passion and desire between two people is simply the feeling that one feels when they wish to satisfy their physical craving. Iago seems to disregard the fact that love is about understanding and compassion; he breaks love down into its basic fundamental definition. Iago talks about humans in love, like animals, this shows how little empathy he feels towards others, including his wife Emilia. In the quote Danielle picked, Iago is comforting Roderigo and telling him that the love between Desdemona and Othello is impermanent and unsustainable, since eventually like food, Othello will get tired of Desdemona. This is ironic for Emilia; Iago's wife has a similar viewpoint to her husband concerning love. "T is not a year or two shows us a man: They are all but stomachs and we all but food; they eat us hungrily, and when they are full they belch us. Look you, Cassio and my husband." (Shakespeare 57). Emilia is explaining to Desdemona that all men are the same, concerning the fact that they all have an emptiness inside of them that they wish to fill, men quickly "eat" their lovers without fully enjoying or appreciating them, and then dispose of them. Emilia warns Desdemona, that the reason she didn't see it in Othello at first is because it can take a while until one can fully see the ways of a man. It's quite interesting how Emilia is the one more used to this treatment of men, while Desdemona has lived such a sheltered life, and never thought of men as such animals. Desdemona would have been the perfect Venetian wife, while Emilia would have been the all knowing one. Shakespeare has displayed two types of women in this play, allowing the readers and viewers to fully understand the role that women were expected to play in Shakespearean time.
DeleteI agree with Shreema, I too think Othello and Desdemona view their relationship as a honeymoon, and less of actual love. Although, I do not agree with the thought that they actually do love each other. From what I see, it seems that Desdemona has only puppy love to give towards Othello, meaning that she is only sympathetic to the hardships that Othello has faced, and the obstacles that he has overcome in the past. Being a daughter to a very important and well repeated man must mean that Desdemona has not done anything without her fathers consent (besides marrying Othello) and hasn't seen a part of the world any different than hers. Desdemona wants to be a part of something different and new, something that she has not done before, but she would need someone to guide her, and in this case, it is Othello
DeleteOthello on the other hand seems to love Desdemona because of the sympathy that she shows towards him. In this play, it does not show Othello being close to anybody personally before Desdemona, which could mean that he's been lonely throughout his life in, and out of the battlefield. Therefore, when he sees someone actually showing that they appreciate what he has done, of course he's going to jump at the chance and stay with that person. I guess you could say that Othello just wants someone to cuddle with in their past time, rather than truly loving the them. From what it seems, Othello and Desdemona could love each other, but it would not be for the right reasons.
I agree with what Danielle said
DeleteThe way Shakespeare refers to food in the play isn't exactly very pleasant, and doesn't give the reader a pleasant image in their mind, however I think that was Shakespeare’s motive. He wants the reader to have a pre-conceived idea of this "Desdemona". He wants the reader to also see how twisted Iago's mind is and the way he thinks of things very different from most people. Its ironic how Iago is saying that Desdemona will get sick of Othello and just move to the next guy, when now in act iii we see that really Othello is the one getting sick and tired of Desdemona, chewing her up, then spitting her right back out so quickly. Iago uses this reference to food in the beginning of the play, and says this to Rodreigo. Later in the play Emilia makes a food reference to Desdemona about men. 'they are all but stomachs and we are the food; they eat us hungrily and when they are full the belch us' Emilia says this to Desdemona later on in the play when when Desdemona, honest Desdemona, is trying to please Othello and Emilia is disgusted by Iago. Many things come full circle in the play which I find is very interesting. Food references are made multiple times in the play, yet the references would ruin ones appetite.
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Delete“Thus do I ever make the fool my purse… Must bring this monstrous birth to world’s light.” Iago(20)
DeleteLydia Kerchner
Iago has just convinced Rodrigo not only to not attempt suicide but to give him all of his money in the process. Iago is really plotting in this soliloquy; he has told Rodrigo he will get Desdemona. Now we, as the reader, see his plotting process and it helps us to really understand his evil. After Rodrigo leaves Iago says the fool is his purse which is a metaphor saying that Rodrigo’s naivety is his way to money. When he is scheming he comes up with this idea to “abuse Othello’s ear” which sounds horrible. It gives us an image while explaining, with severity, that Iago is going to tell Othello lies about Desdemona’s involvement with Cassio. One of my favorite lines in the play so far is the last line of his soliloquy, a metaphor for his idea. It gives this image of an evil creature being born and it leaves the reader with this impression that this plan is awful and is going to mess up a lot of people’s lives.
“…And what was he? Forsooth, a great arithmetician, One Michael Cassio… that never set squadron in the field, nor the division of battle knows…” (Shakespeare 1)
DeleteIago says this in the very beginning when he is so mad about not being chosen as officer. Iago believes that he should have been chosen because he was in all the battles. Iago had experience hands on in the battlefield. Iago compares himself to Cassio. He explains that Cassio has done nothing. According to Iago, Cassio has no experience actually being in battle. Iago thinks that all Cassio is good for is strategizing. When Iago talks about not being picked to be officer, he is so mad. Iago goes on and on listing reasons why he should be chosen over Cassio. Not only is Iago mad at Cassio, he is even more furious at Othello. Othello is the one who chose Cassio as his officer. It makes Iago so outraged because he and Othello fought along side each other. Iago was sure that Othello would pick him. This makes Iago hate Othello so much. Iago builds up so much anger about this that he plans to ruin Othello’s life. Everything that Iago does from this point forward is his plan to try to ruin Othello so he can have what he wants.
"I hate the Moor: my cause is hearted; thine hath no less reason."
DeleteThis quote is on page 19, said by none other then Iago. This quote is obviously straight forward, said with the intention that he wants to put Othello in a series of unfortunate events, to see him do nothing but suffer. Although, what hasn't before I this play, is Iago confessing his hate rather than him implying that he hates Othello like he has done throughout the play. Iago has such a putrid hate for Othello, that seems to only get stronger and stronger. With my view, the only reason as to why Iago hates Othello is because he made Michael Cassio his lieutenant who unlike Iago, has no military experience. In addition, there is a rumor that Othello had an affair with Iago's wife Emilia. Although, later in the soliloquy, Iago says that even if this rumor was not true, he would still continue with his plan as if it was. As you keep reading, you find out that this "rumor" is just a lie that Iago tries to convince himself of being true to have another reason to despise Othello. This soliloquy symbolizes Iago's animosity towards Othello, and gives the reader an insight on Iago's scheming mind. This shows how devious and megalomaniac of a person he is. The way Shakespeare writes Iago's hate towards Othello is spine tingling, but keeps you wanting more.
I agree with Zara that Iago’s main goal is to make Othello suffer and that his root of evil/jealousy stems from Cassio getting the lieutenant position and not him. When Othello finally gives Iago the lieutenant position, I believe is one of the most important parts in the play. Othello says, “Now art thou my lieutenant”(Shakespeare 54). And Iago replies back with, “I am your own for ever”(Shakespeare 54). Iago’s line is just so devious and Iago makes it sound like he’s giving the rest of his life to honor Othello which is a complete lie because we know how much he hates Othello. It’s such an important part because Iago is victorious at last. Although I think that Iago’s plan worked out even better than he thought. It’s great that he got the position, but it’s even better that Othello is about to kill a senator’s daughter. If Barbantio finds out that it was Othello who killed her, which he probably will because knowing how Iago works, he will most definitely be the first to throw Othello under the bus even though he claims that he will be loyal to Ohello forever. So, once Barbantio finds out he will probably do everything in his power to remove Othello from his position as general. If this happens then Iago will be seen as the good guy and could potentially move up in rankings, becoming general.
DeleteI agree with Zara. Many things that Iago says clearly show how much he hates the Moor. Iago’s hatred towards Othello and his plan to ruin Othello show how evil Iago is. In the discussion, the question was brought up about the root of Iago’s evil. Much of the class began debating is Iago was a psychopath. One of the main reasons much of the class believed that Iago is really a psychopath was his inability to empathize. Zara’s quote clearly shows that Iago cannot empathize. He just hates people no matter what is going on in their life. Iago stops at nothing to get what he wants. He does not care nor does he think about any consequences of his actions. Iago wants to see Othello suffer. Iago wants Othello dead. I think that this quote clearly shows how much of a psychopath Iago is.
DeleteErin brings up valid points in her analysis of this quote. She speaks on the “trigger” which causes Iago to eventually snap and his poison to boil over. Iago not obtaining the position of lieutenant potentially can be a huge factor in some character’s deaths. Iago is a easily a sociopath and even a psychopath. By definition a sociopath is someone with a personality disorder along with antisocial and abnormal social behaviors. In this case Iago will become violent addressing the title of a psychopath. “I’ll tear her all to pieces.” (Shakespeare 53). Iago says to Othello speaking on Desdemona’s alleged adultery. In other words, Iago’s mind works differently than a normal compassionate human being’s. He will go to all lengths to ruin Othello. As the play progresses and Iago gets his position of lieutenant after he causes Cassio to fail the fog begins to clear on his “plan”. He does not only want his position as he seems to be angry about from the beginning. Iago will not stop, he will not be satisfied until Othello is hurt in the absolute worst way. It is scary how a person’s anger can build up so immensely from one act of simply not picking them for a job. Reader’s can debate that Othello could not imagine that Iago would feel this way or be capable of this. Although the flip side is Othello could sense Iago’s anger and felt this was the best way to prevent something like this from happening. Othello’s way of preventing destruction such as this from happening could be the exact time at which it begins.
DeleteI completely agree with Erin
DeleteI agree that Iago feels as if he is five steps above Cassio when it comes down to being on the battlefield. He strongly feels that Cassio is not at all qualified for the bearing responsibility of lieutenancy. I agree also with what she said about how Iago is definitely more angry with Othello for not choosing him as lieutenant, considering all they had been through. The reader gets this image in their mind of a very angry man who has been mistreated by a friend. Right from the start the reader sees (but might not yet realize) that Iago is the villain in the play. This is the first of many angry Iago speeches we see in the play. This quote is also very important because we see Othello come full circle, and Iago poison more and more people with his evil ways. Iago describes Othello as this evil man shortly after this quote is said. The reader then sees the true Othello and realizes IAGO is really the villain here, and Othello is a strong and loving man to his wife and all people. Then in the mid/end of act iii we see Othello completely turn back around into this horrible hating husband who becomes distant and cold. However, Iago keeps on building up his power and influence on Othello's and multiple other characters minds as the play continues. I have come to an interesting idea as to what the quote is used for, although it might not be correct! Maybe shakesphere is having Iago foreshadow what the future Othello will be like, the Othello that hates his wife.
The whole idea of anger/vexation is a huge part of the play in my opinion. there are so many instances where people are so angry at each other, or so many character binaries. Iago vs Othello, Emilia vs Iago, Bianca vs Cassio, Rodreigo vs Iago, and Othello vs Desdemona. This quote was a great way for Shakespeare to kick off the play and for the reader to get a sense of Iagos jealous and evil persona, and maybe even a sense as to who the true Othello will end up being...
EYES/SEEING
ReplyDeleteAct 1, Scene 3 Page 11:
Delete"She is abused, stol'n from me and corrupted By spells and medicines bought off mountebanks; For nature so preposterously to err, Being not deficient, blind, or lame of sense, Sans witchcraft could not."
This quote occurs in the play when Brabantio is telling the duke and the other senators how he believes his daughter was "stolen" from him. The words eyes/seeing are not said in this quote, however he does mention the world blind which connects the quote to those words. In these lines he is saying that his daughter has been taken from him, and that it is against her will as she would never freely go. He believes that the person who has taken her (Othello) used witchcraft and therefore she was unaware. The reason that he thinks this is because she is NOT blind, deficient, or lame of sense meaning she has better judgement. It does seem to make sense as once we get to know Desdemona we learn that she is both a responsible and intelligent woman. However, it does not apply to her situation with Othello as her choosing to be with him was not a "blind" choice or a bad decision.
i think Megan brings up a great deal of characterization surrounding Othello that i didn't get a chance to mention w/ his inherent mysteriousness. to me Othello is seen as a heretic or evil, sort of dark and gloomy, almost taboo. hes been called a devil,accused of witch craft, and been affiliated w/ magical objects. since Othello is black and not from Venice people have no idea of who this man really is and what he does/ is capable of. the has this "magic handkerchief" which like detects infidelity or something crazy, people fear him, as Brabantio said about Desdemona. to me he almost feels like a witch doctor, or some voodoo practitioner, he put Desdemona under this spell to get her to fall in love w/ him. and then there's the whole thing of people being afraid of the unknown, these people are attacking the shadows surrounding Othello their ignorance of his person is driving them to hate him.
DeleteDEVIL/MONSTER/BEAST
ReplyDelete“Or else the devil will make a grandsire of you” (Shakespeare 3).
DeleteIago is holding nothing back speaking to Brabantio about Othello and his daughter’s love affair. He is putting Othello under the worse light possible calling him the “devil”. Iago is saying that if Brabantio does not act and get his daughter under his control the devil, Othello, will make him a grandfather. Therefore he would have a devil son in law and a devil grandchild. This is of course just intensifying Brabantio’s anger and his most obscene thoughts. This motif demonstrates how characters view Othello just because he is with Brabantio’s precious Desdemona. It is because of his accused actions that he is viewed this way. Othello is a man well respected by all. He crossed many of those men’s lines in this situation and seems as if it will be difficult for them to forget this one.
“Her eye must be fed; and what delight shall she have to look upon the devil?”
DeleteIago often characterizes Othello as a devil, especially when trying to convince someone else to hate or act out against him. In this particular line, Iago is persuading Roderigo that Desdemona will soon tire of Othello and move on from him to another man. Iago’s method of persuasion tends to involve a lot of really dramatic language, with plenty of exaggerated insults. I doubt anyone but Iago would go so far as to refer to Othello as the devil himself. This isn't even the first time Iago has characterized Othello like this – he said something strikingly similar when talking to Barbantio about how Desdemona had sneaked out with Othello. This drama has proven to be an effective method of persuasion; Iago seems to always be able to sweep others up in his fancy words and get them to feel just the way he wants them to (this can be seen with Barbantio and Roderigo earlier in the play, as well as during this monologue of Iago’s.) I also found it to be interesting how Iago chose to call Othello a devil in this particular line. An insult like that would normally reflect upon someone’s character, but the way Iago uses it makes it into more of a comment on Othello’s appearance, which is another thing Iago likes to bring up. The fact that Othello is old (or at least older than Desdemona) and black would have him unattractive in the eyes of most Italians at the time, so naturally, some people would have a bit of a problem with him, if just subconsciously. Iago knows how effective it is to use peoples’ prejudices and shallowness against them.
I agree with Rhiannon in that Iago adds much exaggeration to his insults when talking about them, but I also respectfully disagree with when she thought that this comment was more based off his appearance. Towards the beginning of the book you don’t get how Iago says all the monstrous things he does about Othello, some relating to looks but most relating to personality. After you meet Othello you see him as this guy madly in love with this girl, Iago’s description being totally wrong, so you’d think that the description was based off appearance. Though what if Iago knew there was this darkness to Othello that he could reveal? As the story progresses some darkness does come out in Othello, “OTH. I am glad to see you mad. DES. Why, seet Othello? OTH. Devil! [striking her] DES. I have not deserved this.”(Shakespeare 66). Within that exchange there is a pure darkness that comes out in Othello, so pure that it causes him to slap Desdemona. Maybe this whole time Iago wasn’t just after Othello because he didn’t give him the job, but because Iago did see the devil in Othello. It is possible that Iago was foreshadowing the beast in Othello to come out, and Iago just gave Othello the push over the edge to let people see the devil through him. This idea doesn’t change the fact that Iago is still the villain in the story, but what if he’s just a villain with good intentions by trying to warn the people of the other villain among them.
Deletei agree with Maddie. the intensity of that specific word (especially for that era) is mortifying. to tell a man his daughter is with a devil and he will have a grandchild "devil". in this opening we are set up to think that Othello is a monstrous, evil person. Which we soon find out, he is not. In act IV we see Desdemona get hit, by Othello, and while he does this he exclaims "Devil!" (Shakespeare 66). we now are seeing Othello become a nasty, abusive figure. We are also being led to feel for Desdemona; we see her accept the abuse and is submissive to it. Analyzing this these two motifs, even as far apart as they are in the play they are connected. Iago is obviously just going on about Othello in his rage but, this is where Shakespeare is able to leave little hints about certain personality changes. The tables are slowly turning for Othello.
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ReplyDelete“With him! Why, ‘t is not possible.” (Shakespeare 27)
DeleteRoderigo says this when he finds out that Desdemona is truly in love with Othello. When Desdemona sees Othello after him being off at war, they are very affectionate towards each other. It is clear that Desdemona and Othello are very happy in their relationship together. This makes Roderigo very jealous of Othello. Roderigo is so desperate to be with Desdemona. Roderigo has been trying to win over Desdemona the whole time. For example, Roderigo does anything that Iago says because Iago promised Roderigo that he would get Desdemona for him. It is not smart for Roderigo to listen to Iago because Iago is only looking out for his best interest. However, Roderigo still listens because he is so jealous of what Othello has and he will do anything to get Desdemona for himself. Roderigo says that it is not possible for Desdemona to be in love with Othello because he cannot believe it. It makes Roderigo crazy to think that Desdemona should be with anyone but him.
“...yet that I put the Moor / At least into a jealousy so strong / That judgement cannot cure.” (page 28)
DeleteMusing his blatantly vicious plans to degrade Othello’s contentment, Iago, with a precise and genius sort of madness nonetheless, is evidently consumed with a raging passion for glory. However, with a supposed logical mind, Iago must be somewhat aware of his obsessive desires for greatness, otherwise he would not be so intent on hindering Othello’s own security and certainty.
Iago, as flaunted through past amplified longings, does nestle jealousy within himself, fueling his drive to burden Othello with that same emotion. He has felt that, since he was not initially granted the honorable position of lieutenant, Othello is therefore deserving of being punished and humiliated for being responsible for this decision made. Furthermore, in this soliloquy spoken by Iago, he stresses his excessive yearning to strip Othello of his innocent, trusting nature, ultimately leaving the man vulnerable to impeding doubts and the plaguing wrath of jealousy.
This seething feeling of jealousy, as the play ventures on, seemingly begins to weave through more and more characters, upheaving more and more conflict. Iago tactically embraces this, using it to manipulate romance into, possibly, tragedy. The quote expresses how once suspicion accumulates, a blinding mask of jealousy can begin to dictate the rationality of the human mind. Actually, most likely to add some irony, this is evident in Iago, since, although he seems to portray himself as a pretty logical man, if he was rationally thinking, he probably would not be going to such lengths to get revenge on Othello. Attempting to ruin another man’s life is extremely dramatic, so Iago’s jealousy most definitely let his judgement fall ill.
Throughout the story, if not by simple statements, it has been recognized by images and actions that jealousy is a conquering force. So often do people allow their desires to overpower reality, that the route to prosperity becomes murky and dark. The jealousy of Iago, as well as his need to overly shame another person to feel superiority and control, extends into the world beyond the tale. Wars have been fought for reasons stemming from the emotions common to Iago, for example.
Overall, Iago’s determination to make Othello jealous enough to lose his stability and compassion is unrestrained, foreshadowing the great possibility of Othello doing just that. Judging Iago’s well contemplated plan, Othello may sincerely begin to believe his wife may be unfaithful to him, meaning he will certainly feel betrayed. Soon, though, betrayal will modify to infuriating jealousy, and, no doubt, Othello will do something rash.
-Sarah Kowaleski
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DeleteBhav Singh `
Delete“Lay thy finger thus, and let thy soul be instructed, mark me with that violence she first loved the Moor…”(page 27)
This quote is right after Iago breaks the news to Roderigo that Desdemona is directly in love with Othello. Roderigo is shocked to hear the horrifying message. This quote is a recurring image of the hatred that Iago has toward Othello. He uses words that he uses throughout the play very frequently such as the “Moor”. Towards the middle of this quote Iago insults Othello by saying that he is defective in manners and beauty, loveliness in favour and sympathy in years. This is not the first time that we have seen the grudge that Iago shows toward Othello throughout the play. He disgraces Othello everytime he calls him the “Moor”(he should respect him because he is of a high position). Toward the end of this quote Iago says the following about Desdemona: “very nature will instruct her in it and compel her to some second choice”, this portrays the fact that Iago believes that Othello will not last for Desdemona and that someone else is going to have to come in and swoop her up. Throughout the quote Iago also mentions a lot of good things about Cassio, he says that Cassio is young and handsome and other traits. This raises a new idea: does Iago really want Cassio to get together with Desdemona? This is a situation because as I perceived earlier, Iago did not like Cassio so this quote makes me wonder.This quote displays a situation and the recurring image of Iago’s perception of Othello.
I agree with Erin Doyle on her view concerning the quote on page 27. Roderigo cannot comprehend the fact that Desdemona could actually love Othello; this could be because of the fact that Othello is black and is considered an outsider in his own community. This jealousy that Roderigo feels towards Othello is almost drowned in self-pity and self-loathing. Roderigo possibly feel that something must be wrong with him, even though Othello is a complete foreigner and clearly doesn’t belong; he still manages to get the girl. While Roderigo is the perfect Venetian man and has all the qualities that a young women like Desdemona would be looking for in a spouse. Jealousy is a key theme in Othello; many characters experience this emotion including Othello. It was discussed in class that Othello only married Desdemona to symbolize the fact that he was worthy of his title and he was an equal to all his male associates. I personally believe that Othello truly did love Desdemona, and just because he felt jealousy towards Desdemona and Cassio does by no means take away his love for her. Jealousy and love are two very strong emotions, but that doesn't mean one can’t feel one while feeling the other. Just because Othello is envious and wants Desdemona dead, does not mean that he doesn't love her any less, if anything it indicates that he loves her even more. If he can’t have her than he doesn't want anyone to be able to be with her. He truly loves her, its may not be honest or trusting love, but it is true love. "O, beware my lord, of jealousy; it is the green-eyed monster which doth mock." (Shakespeare 46). Iago is explaining to Othello that the "green eyed monster" teases its prey and lets its prey destroy itself. Jealousy is a strange and unpredictable mood that makes people do unexpected things. It is human nature to feel jealousy and suspicion, most succumb to it, and only a few are able to extinguish it from themselves. Shakespeare shows us that even the best of us (Othello) can be victims of jealousy, but what we let it do to us is up to the individual.
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DeleteI agree completely. I think that when he uses the quote that you stated “With him! Why, ‘t is not possible” he is in denial. He is saying that no matter what he sees or what he hears, he is not going to believe that Othello and Desdemona truly love each other. This seems to be something that not only happened back in the time that the play was written, but also today. People will hear something that they don’t like, and deny it. This seems to be Roderigo’s method, although he may not actually believe it, it is his way of giving himself hope for ever having a future with Desdemona. Like you stated above, when Othello returns from war, they are very close and prove that their love is true. They know that there are plenty of people watching them, observing their affection that they have towards each other, but the power of love lets them forget about the people watching and just focus on each other. This proves that what they have is real. It’s not just love that they may say they have, but end up being wrong. This scene, and in particular this line proves that their love is a story that will live on forever.
There hasn't been a quote posted hear to back up what I'm about to say, but it ties into the theme of jealousy, so oops.
DeletePraise brought up the idea of Desdemona's pregnancy during the class discussion, and I wanted to share my idea of how the story would play out if this plot point was implemented. Obviously, if there was any slight chance of Desdemona becoming pregnant, jealousy would definitely grow stronger within Othello. I feel as if this news would further him into madness, and waiting 9 months to even remotely tell whose baby it is would drive him insane with jealousy and impatience. Also, by this point in the play, Brabantio has been rendered somewhat insignificant. However, I think this plot point would actually make Brabantio more significant. I see the play becoming a gigantic war between Brabantio, Othello, and Cassio, with Iago subtly manipulating on the side.
However, I don't think this is what Shakespeare was going for. I think he wanted to portray Brabantio and Iago as being in the wrong, and Cassio and Othello as being in the right. With this plot point, it would shift the mindset of who is in the wrong and who is in the right. Othello's extreme jealousy and Cassio's questionable actions would render what is supposed to be good useless, which I believe is not what Shakespeare wanted to come out of this play. He wanted to have good and bad, with some blurring if the two question them. I don't think he wanted a play where there was no good.
LUST/SEX/INFIDELITY
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DeleteIt is merely a lust of blood, and permission of the will." (Shakespeare 19). This is the portion of the text where Iago is starting to try an convince Roderigo not to commit suicide over Desdemona. This is almost two motifs in one, lust being one and blood being another motif followed throughout the play. The line is being used to convince Roderigo that his "love" for Desdemona is only the desire of his body. Iago wants Roderigo to think he can just will away his affections for Desdemona. Iago is "dumbing" down love to a vulgar, guilty, action of the body. I'm almost led to think that this line itself isn't being said to save Roderigos life, but only to preserve his loyalty towards Iago, so eventually Iago can use Roderigo for his own benefit. This line is trying to do out of pure hatred towards Othello. i also thinks this reflects more on Iagos personality. I think this specific motif with its placement in the text shows the true devilish manner of Iago.
DeleteI agree with Emily Nappi’s blog post about how Iago seemed to intentionally simplify passionate love into primal lust in order to avert Roderigo’s defeated, grim thoughts to those of hope and prospect, no matter how false. Moreover, Iago’s evident lack of tenderness and his impassive, logical take on an emotion as grand as love prompts the scrutiny of Iago’s character, possibly diagnosing the man as a psychopath in conclusion.
DeleteBy definition, a psychopath is a person with a chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent behavior. Although studies have shown that these people may appear outwardly “normal,” they do possess a certain “moral insanity,” as the experts put it. This means that a psychopath would have no sense of ethics or morality, also lacking social emotions such as shame, guilt, and embarrassment. Another characteristic of the common psychopath is that they often blame others for events that are actually their own faults. Iago certainly blames Othello for not granting him the position of lieutenant, however it is unknown whether the prior actions of Iago had, in any way, deemed him unfit for the job, therefore making it his own fault for not acquiring it. If Iago had possibly shown any mental instability or merely a lesser capability than Cassio, the man who did get the job, then Iago cannot necessarily accuse Othello of unjustly rejecting him. There must have been some reason Othello thought Iago would not be best fit as lieutenant, otherwise he would have surely gotten the place. Initially, before he went insane with jealousy, Othello was a fair, honest man. It would seem unlikely that he would have placed Cassio in such a significant position just because they were good friends.
Anyway, psychopaths have also been known to be insincere in speech, much like how Iago had manipulated people with his enchanting words and phrasing, striving to destroy Othello’s dignity. Being able to swiftly lie, psychopaths are able to distort and inflate their speeches in selfish ways, making it quite easy for them to influence others. And, as Emily’s blog post suggested, people like Iago do not react to emotional terms in the same way “normal” people do, meaning they respond casually, as if there was no weight of feeling behind the words. This may explain why it was so simply effortless for Iago to denounce and degrade the meaning of love. Nevertheless, there is one major contrast between the common psychopath and Iago, which would be that psychopaths have trouble understanding metaphors and abstract words. Iago does not carry this characteristic, most especially because his words thrive with such brilliant figures of speech. This does not exclude him from having this mental disorder, though. Shakespeare was a very sharp, talented writer, so, of course, for the sake of entertainment and admiration, Iago speaks with compellingly.
Iago may be considered selfish for putting the lives of others in jeopardy in order to attain his own goals, and he may also be considered overly confident for believing no one else is as worthy as he is of those goals, again aligning more qualities to those of a psychopath. Although, arguably he could not be one because then he would not be able to clearly plan for the future, when, in fact, he intricately plotted out a way to get revenge on Othello. But in other ways, this further solidifies that he is indeed one. Even though Iago kept telling Roderigo he had a plan, he actually never really had a well thought out one. He sort of just kept going with it, manipulating where was needed. Iago sort of just set his intent on ruining Othello’s life, but never really figured out how to do so until the moment was practically upon them. Following a basic outline though, ago was set to take action, saying, “...After some time, to abuse Othello’s ear / That he (Cassio) is too familiar with his wife…” (page 20).
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DeleteScientists have categorized psychopaths into two categories: primary and secondary. Primary psychopaths are thought to have genetically developed these traits, whereas secondary psychopaths are thought to be more like products of their environment. So, from this, it may be contemplated whether something had provoked Iago’s insanity, or if it has always been there, burrowed within himself. If Iago had been genetically destined to be a psychopath, then maybe that is why Othello did not appoint him as lieutenant. Maybe Othello noticed his instability. Or maybe, after years of fighting in treacherous, scarring battles, not obtaining his only real dream pushed Iago over the edge. Another possibility is that it could be both, being that Iago had always had a mental disorder and his mind had been slowly exhausted, through excessive trauma, to the point where rationality could not compete with his own desires for potential glory.
-Sarah Kowaleski
FAIR/FOUL
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Delete"There's none so foul, and foolish thereunto, But does foul pranks which fair and wise ones do" (Shakespeare 25).
DeleteIago is trying to distract Desdemona, as she anticipates Othello's return. He brings up how even if a woman is ugly and stupid, she can still play the same dirty tricks that smart and pretty women do. This quotes is a perfect example that shows the readers just how much of a misogynist (hater of women) Iago is. Iago is telling anyone who will listen that every woman is exactly the same, no matter how smart or pretty they are. Throughout Othello, Iago has bashed women left and right, including his own wife. It can be assumed that Iago is the type of man who thinks that women are only good for housework and taking care of children. Which is funny since his enemy, Othello, is the exact opposite. Othello actually cares about what Desdemona has to say and what she thinks. This is shown when Othello asks for Desdemona to be present and a participant when Othello and Barbantio are arguing about Othello and Desdemona's marriage.
Marina Angelopoulos
Delete"Why, there's no remedy: 'tis the curse of service, Preferment goes by letter and affection, and not by old gradation, where each second stood heir to the first.." (scene 1)
This quote takes place in the opening conversation between Iago and Roderigo. Iago is explaining his distaste towards the way Othello has chosen to select his new officer. Iago is saying that this is not fair, that electing Cassio is unjust. This choosing based on affection rather than following the general guidelines of promotion is wrong. HE was there, HE fought, HE killed, and now Othello has disregarded his loyalty like it was nothing. He makes the audience feel sympathetic towards him, knowing what it is like to deserve something and not be able to achieve it due to favoritism. We almost agree with him and think that Othello must not be that great of a man, until we see that later on Othello is not what Iago makes him out to be. This idea of justice, and fairness, continues on in Iago's words throughout the play and makes the reader understand one of the reasons backing Iago's hatred, and why he chooses to make Othello's life difficult.
"...That your fair daughter at this odd-even and dull watch o' the night.....To the gross clasps of the lascivious Moor..."
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Right before Roderigo says this to Brabantio, Brabantio is not at all convinced that his daughter is with Othello. In order to convince him of her so called wrongdoings, Roderigo must craft his language carefully in order to make Othello shine in the worst light. He states how great his daughter is by using the word fair. The use of this word is also important because it compares the beauty of Desdemona to the ugliness of Othello by calling him "the moor". There are many meanings of the word fair such as beautiful, light colored, honest and just. There is one definition on the word moor, and that is - a person of African descent- and this comparison is huge. It shows all the qualities that Desdemona has, while also showing that Othello doesn't really have any, and is only saying how he is dark skinned. Roderigo’s use of the word 'lascivious' is important as well. Desdemona seems to be Brabantio's prized possession, his wonderful daughter, and we see later on that he is willing to fight anyone who 'does things' with her. Roderigo also skews what actually really happened by making it sound as if Othello has Desdemona under his "spell" (clasps). It makes it sound as if Othello is that bad guy, and as of now the reader believes that since we haven't yet seen Othello for himself, we have only heard characters say bad things about him. This comparison of fair v.s. foul is important to what is to come in the next scene when we see the true Othello.
" To fall in love with what she fear'd to look upon" (pg.12)
Deletein this part of the story Othello is trying to explain his marriage to the counsel and Brabantio is, once again belittling Othello. Brabantio seems awestruck honestly, he thought he'd known his fair maiden of a daughter but now she's being swept of by this foul beast, of all things. the other thing this quote helps the reader understand is the depth and longevity of Brabantio's racism and spreading hate for Othello. and in another sense Brabantio is accepting the shift and exit of his daughter from his life, notice he uses past tense to signal that she's different and if this is how she wishes to carry out her life its her decision. I think Brabantio is using this quote to link his initial surprise and his ability to reflect on the past few hours and give the advice to Othello (she has deceived her father and blah blah blah).
Marina makes a fair point in that Iago’s way of making us sympathize with him is ingenious. His logic proves strong, that he was the one who fought beside Othello and that Cassio does not have such a background to boast of. Why did Othello choose Cassio in Iago’s stead? There are many different ways to answer this, all with sufficient evidence to back it up. I personally believe that Othello did this as a personal favor to Cassio, for his help during Othello’s secret courting of Desdemona. Othello himself answers Iago that Cassio did lend him aid “from first to last: why dost thou ask?” (Othello, Act Two). Why else would he make such a rash decision? Othello went against “Three great ones of the city…” (Othello, Act One) in order to secure this position for a man who had not seen the battlefield. This is not the general who is making this decision, it is of one who is indebted to Cassio and has decided to remedy it with a life-changing decision. One that will make Othello rue the day that he decided that one Michael Cassio would receive the lieutenancy.
DeletePURITY/CLEANLINESS/SOILED
ReplyDelete"Lechery, by this hand; an index and obscure prologue to the history of lust and foul thoughts" (Shakespeare 27).
DeleteAs dramatic as ever, Iago manipulates Roderigo into thinking that Cassio and Desdemona have an unlawful attraction toward each other. Just by the two of them shaking hands, according to Iago, we are given a sneak peak of the infidelity yet to come between Cassio and Desdemona. Also, as we all clearly see, Michael Cassio is the one who has lured Desdemona. It's not her fault, she's only human. After fueling Roderigo's unstable emotions, Iago is able to make Roderigo very angry at Cassio because he has made "Roderigo's" Desdemona impure. In my mind, I picture Iago clutching Roderigo’s hand in a melodramatic manner, of course, as Roderigo’s feelings abruptly turn to rage. Now the once virtuous, unsoiled Desdemona has been tricked into being wicked and vulgar. Iago’s use of words like “foul thoughts” lead his audience to be disgusted and ultimately feel vengeful due to the behavior of the two people. Following Iago like a puppy Roderigo has brought it upon himself to ensure that Desdemona becomes pure again by rescuing her from both Cassio and Othello.
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DeleteI agree with Melissa ,and think that the picture of Iago clutching Rod's hand is entirely reasonable. I however, see this line as more of a scowl, with Iago speaking down upon him as if he were better than him. Again we see the severe manipulation from Iago, no surprise there. As we discussed the root of Iago's evil in our discussion, one can start to see with this quote that Iago is really willing to go as far as he needs to go to achieve his goals, we wonder if this hatred has some roots from his past, and can only hope the manipulated become aware of Iago's plans.
FAITH/DOUBT
ReplyDelete"My life upon her faith! (Shakespeare 18).
DeleteI really life this quote because i think it depicts Othellos true character. At this point in the play Barbantio is defeated, and broken. he lost his "treasure", his only daughter. After feeling this betrayal and doubt from his daughters decision he utter an insulting remark about Desdemona about her faith, "She has deceived her father, and may thee." (Shakespeare 18). Othello comes back with a quick and courageous response. Considering Brbantios status and his unconditional love for his daughter who is Othello to tell Barbantio what he doesn't know. This also supports Othellos character as a risk-taking but, successful general. Assuming Othello has seen betrayal as a military officer prior to his intimate relationship with Desdemona, he has a trusting nature about him as shown in the quote. is also think the quote has something to do with Othello trying to show Desdemona respect. He responded to Barbantio as to defend her almost. I think despite Barbantios feelings at the moment Othello still knows Barbantios want for Desdemona- to be treated with respect. i think this motif evokes multiple emotions from Othello; pride in Desdemona, and apologetic towards Barbantio for whisking his "treasure" away.
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Delete"And let her speak of me before her father..." (Shakespeare 13).
DeleteThis quote is said by Othello, when he was talking to the Senators and Duke. The quote means that Othello will let Desdemona speak before him as proof that Desdemona loves Othello willingly, and not forced like Brabantio thinks. During this time setting, men were superior, while the women were the inferior, only being symbolized as property. This symbolizes Othello's sureness in Desdemona, while he is being threatened his life! How can one have so much confidence in the other, and in addition, someone they have only known for a short period of time? When Othello says this, he is not only expressing his love for Desdemona, but his faith and trust in her. Later on throughout this scene, you can guess correctly that the council is quite surprised that a man has let a woman speak on behalf of him, considering a woman's social ranking. By Othello's expression of his trust and faith in Desdemona, it also shows a representation of his love for her, in which he explains his reasoning for in his own words. As of right now, Othello and Desdemona's love towards each other is kind of presumptuous to say that they love each other for the right reasons, but perhaps they love each other in a away that is much different in comparison to others.
"I will incontinently drown myself"- Roderigo (15)
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In this line Roderigo is showing how little faith he now has that it will work out with Desdemona, and this is the main reason as to why he is allied with Iago, so with out that connection, Iago would loose Roderigo's support, which he needs. This reveals aspects of Iago's characteristics by showing how manipulative and convincing he can be in Roderigo's mind, because after this is said Iago attempts to boost up Roderigo confidence. He does this by kind of saying, you are a great and don't think for a second that you don't deserve her because you are special. Earlier in the book you find out that Roderigo has went after Desdemona from when Brabantio says, that I told you Desdemona isn't for you! But Roderigo is too head over heals in love with her to realize that it will never work, and Iago is just giving him false hope so he has a companion under his wing. Iago's use of Roderigo is, he hopes that he may eventually get so jealous one day that he may start a fight with Othello and just make more enemies and problems for him to deal with. On Roderigo's side however would be Brabantio most likely because he wants anything other than Othello for his daughter, so Iago has already managed to lie and turn two people against Othello.
i completely agree w/ Zara i think she talks about, in a great deal of detail Othello's trust in Desdemona. and that brings me to a point i really wanted to make during the discussion, i feel that even though people interpret Desdemona as a light, frilly, air headed girl i don't think she is. i think Shakespeare did a huge favor to women at that period in history, he makes a strong, willing, able-minded female character. she defies her fathers overbearing, and quite frankly strangling rules set to her, she speaks for herself in front of her father and the council, who in that time period wouldn't shoot her a second glance. all i'm saying is that Shakespeare did people a favor by telling people its OK to stand up for yourself.
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DeleteI think this is an example of Othello's confidence in both himself and Desdemona. I agree that it is a risky thing to say to the father of your wife who is already mad, but I think that's just part of Othello's character. Throughout the beginning of the play he is characterized as a strong willed outsider. This line emphasizes his trust in not only himself but also in Desdemona. He's so confident he would bet his life on the fact that she loved him. The Othello in the beginning of the play is very different from the Othello we see later on in the book. He goes from being completely confident in Desdemona to doubting her completely.
Zara:
DeleteI agree with the part when she wrote that Othello did act very strangely in letting a woman speak for herself. It shows that Othello has a lot of respect for her, and his actions and words prove that. But I don’t think that their love is real. However, I do think that they share deep affection for the other, but their love cannot be defined as true love. If you look at the time range of their “courtship”, it was only a couple of months or so. That is not even close to the amount of time you need to get to know a person, and I believe that they are just fooled into thinking that they are the identities the other thinks they are. Othello is being misled by the idea of Desdemona, not who she actually might be in real life. Desdemona “fell in love” with the idea of the brave, but wounded soldier who just needs time to heal. Another aspect that is impossible to overlook is their age differences. Some of society’s rules are harsh and sometimes it molds people into who they might not want to be, but the acceptable age difference between two people who are involved romantically is definitely not one of those. Yes, even though Desdemona is of the acceptable marrying age in the old venetian times, othello is described as very old, and even the people of those times agreed with the fact that they might not be the perfect match. Age does not equal intelligence, but I believe that in these circumstances they do play a part. Desdemona is the only child of a senator with high standings; she is every bit the innocent little “daddy’s girl”. Othello on the other hand is a soldier,a high ranking one at that. He is definitely not innocent, because having gone through all the hardships of war, nobody can expect him to be. He definitely has life experience, while Des has close to none. She was just attracted to the life of the soldier, whose life vastly differs from her own, and Othello just desired to be wanted and appreciated as much as Desdemona showers upon him.
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ReplyDelete“She loved me for the dangers I had pass’d, And I loved her that she did pity them. This only is the witchcraft I have used. Here comes the lady; let her witness it” (Shakespeare 14).
DeleteBrabantio goes to the Duke to complain about Othello stealing his daughter away from him and this is part of what Othello responds with. It’s almost as if it is a court case, Brabantio is the plaintiff, Othello is the defendant, Desdemona as a witness, and the Duke as the judge. This helped me develop how the book started off, helping me see where everyone stands with their feelings on things. Brabantio went into the “court” arguing that there is a monster, Othello, that has taken Desdemona from him, that she is under a spell by loving him and that there is no way that her true feelings are with him. Then Othello comes back describing how they fell in love, it actually being because of Brabantio inviting Othello over, and saying to get Desdemona to see that it is true love that they share, no witchcraft involved. Then our “witness”, Desdemona, came in to profess that she is deeply in love with Othello to and that there wouldn’t be any change to that. This is just another way to interpret the scene but it provokes us to choose the side of Othello and Desdemona, and making Brabantio, Iago, and Roderigo the villains for trying to split them up.
“Her father loved me, of invited me”(Shakespeare 13).
DeleteIn this quote Othello proves that he was once a friend of Barbantio’s by talking about how Barbantio would frequently invite him over to hear about all of his war stories. Wouldn’t you think that your father wouldn’t mind you dating a well-respected, military commander who he is friends with? Barbantio is obviously racist here because he was once a friend of Othello’s, so just because Othello has dark skin, Barbantio doesn’t approve of him to be with his Desdemona. It’s terrible to think that skin color is getting in the way of Barbantio accepting the fact that Othello is with Desdemona. If Othello was white, Barbantio would probably have no problem with him dating his daughter because of his military status. What Othello said shows proof that Barbantio is racist because Othello gives examples later on of the stories he shared with Barbantio. Clearly Barbantio didn’t have a problem being friends with Othello. He just doesn’t want the reputation that his daughter is with black man, even though he well respected.
@ Lauren
DeleteI agree with you, but I think that Brabantio often invited Othello to his house mostly for his stories. It wasn't that Brabantio "liked" him, but because Othello was interested. Brabantio used Othello for entertainment almost, Othello being from another country and having been through many rough situations was an interesting house guest. In inviting Othello to his house, Brabantio got free entertainment. It's almost like going to the circus, just being you like to watch the performers doesn't mean you would want to accept them as part of your family, accept Othello isn't a freak of nature he is merely a different skin tone. Brabantio is most definitely a racist, but that racism of evident far before Othello began to pursue Desdemona.